Week of June 1st - Loop16 Seq25 + Satcom Calibration COMPLETE

Insteresting indeed. :thinking: I will say that I’ve heard my share of stories about what it’s like to be out on Navy Aircraft Carriers. But- that’s above water. I can’t imagine the terror of being stuck underwater in an enormous can. :scream: Oh My!

@FRANK_CADILLAC LoL! You are being sarcastic, right?

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Haha, I try my best too. At the very least, people avoid me, which is a win win for me. :slight_smile:

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Yes I’m British, it’s in our blood lol

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I was being sarcastic about the politician with one eye, but I am actually going on a sub tomorrow, just wanted to clear that up

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And you don’t see too many one-eyed submarines.

So, which submarine, and why?

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I feel I should be doing something constructive.
So… Here’s a list I think the sound files remind me of which may be helpful to brainstorm connections:

*Here’s hoping of course they may be something to expect ‘in game’ and not exclusively the ARG.

No-signal - An electronic power hum.
A cavernous Interior of something. Maybe a spaceship? Maybe a new city corridor?
Something being dragged?
Maybe a tail of some creature hitting something?
Could it be the infamous sandworm in a cave?
Unloading. Off loading crates?
A series of coded thumps. A cipher perhaps?
Why are some thumps greater or lesser than others.
Something walking?
Something breathing?
Meteorites hitting outside of the starship?
Maybe flying through meteorites or dust rings surrounding a planet?
Locks on a door ulocking?
Listening to a space battle inside a freighter with shots hitting the exterior?
Something drilling? Something like machinery terraforming a planet?
Radiation crackle.
Escape pods jettisoning?
A clockwork Tardis.
A caged animal.
Chains being rattled.
A surface impact of something.
Starship guns firing bursts heard from inside a capital starship.
A circular noise.

As I think of something I shall add more odd thoughts to this post :slight_smile:

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The family and I are going on this one

Just a trip for our last day of our holiday

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Can spotify identify sounds? I have never used it. Perhaps we could compare the sound like a Google sound search? Is that possible? I think you can google match pictures but sounds?

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You can search by voice. I suppose you could run a cable from Stereo-Out to Microphone.

Listening to some of the sound files, I have noticed what sounds like an edit. The audio being cut? That could be just a creation of the sound editor or could be something has ‘dropped out’ of the audio file. Deliberate or not?

Example: The 21st file, 2chnxeok8csnc6kikg8zgod8t2zsyc.mp4

At about 6:00 seconds there is what sounds like a jump or edit to the sound. The volume jumps harshly. It has appeared in a few others.

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I was thinking about this, too. A device that would listen and match… much like Google Image Search works. That’s when I thought up the You-Tube search for something that sounds similiar.
Also thought about: frequencies, radio waves, Ham Radio stuff. shrugs

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Just an observation here: You all keep talking about mp4 being very “compressed”. Innes McKendrick talked about “compressing memory” in his 2017 GDC talk. He said they had considered doing it, but had not yet. Maybe this is a hint that the NEXT update will be using compressed memory?

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There are ways of hiding secret information in sound files. You can:

Encode visual (picture) information within the waveforms and frequencies.

Bury actual text within the file - particularly at the end, where the graphics reader doesn’t see it.

Hide an encrypted file within the sound structure.

Overlay slow-scan TV images into the file.

Slow down or speed up speech, so it can’t be heard until it’s restored to its normal speed.

Reverse speech, so it’s jumbled and impossible to interpret.

Hide messages in specific frequency bands, that get drowned out by general noise.

I have software and techniques that can detect all of these. I’ve tried them on most of the sound files we’ve received. I’ve found very little. The only thing I’ve found for certain is the little black countdown band in the spectrum - and as far as I can tell, all that does is warn you when the sequence will finish.

So unless you guys can think of another encryption technique that I haven’t tried, my opinion is that there’s nothing hidden. Whatever information we need to find is there, in the sound files, as they are. There’s nothing hidden in them.

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The point about compression, particularly strong compression, is that it’s lossy. The data you started with is not the same as what you end up with once its been compressed. You always lose some detail in the compression process, and the more you compress, the more detail you lose.

The same is true of transcoding. If you change a file from one format to another, you generally lose some of the information in the process.

If you’re dealing with something like a picture, or a video, this can be acceptable, within limits. The picture or video quality will degrade, but you can generally reconstruct a more or less acceptable image.

With something like encrypted text, or program code, however, no losses can be allowed. Even one bit corrupted can render a whole datastream unusable.

That’s why the MP4 format is important, and that’s why the need for transcoding is important. Hidden encrypted data just wouldn’t survive the file compression, conversion, and transcoding process. It would just end up jumbled nonsense.

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Okay. I’m following what you’re explaining. However, as far as I’m understanding, we are lacking the access code for UpLink.
The sound on that is what I’ve been focused on. Because all of the sounds needed from everyone has already been submitted & analyzed.

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So, the conclusion (for now) should be that we’ve been provided with all we need.

There’s something in the sounds you can hear, or the videos you can see, or the file names, that gives us the code to unlock the process.

Because I can’t find anything important hidden in the files. And more importantly, neither can lots of people much smarter than me.

The only other alternative is that we haven’t been given all the information yet, and that there will some change in the satellite transmissions.

Comfort yourself with the fact that Alice and Smith are not going to let the ARG go down the tubes because of one difficult puzzle. If we can’t figure out the answer, they’ll tell us.

It would be nice to crack it first, though…

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Since they very clearly know our GPS coordinates (they’re always on the calibration screen), how likely to you think it is that the access code is tailored for each person? Or rather, the correct access code for any given user is specifically dependent on those coordinates? Maybe the audio files point to some number, which must then be used with your latitude and longitude numbers in some way to get your access code.

Just an idea I was noodling…

I am gone for one day and do I return to find everyone has figured the code? No. Instead, I return to find discussions on one-eyed naval politicians taking vacation cruises on submarines who come ashore acting strangely because the pshychological stress caused them to consume too many fizzy tablets resulting in their sinking rather than floating…which actually explains a lot about politicians these days. :thinking:
Congratulations! You guys have solved the world’s current political crisis! :smiley: As a reward, I will treat all of you to a meal here:

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I believe we’re spiralling down a rabbit hole, and we’re not alone. I see similar elsewhere …

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Well the satellite is over all of the US right now so I say everyone in the US just start typing in your guesses for access codes…one of us has to be right. :rofl:

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