Indeed, who supplied the exosuits!
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Well the physical exosuits the dreamers are in were probably created by WAREâŚthey seem to be a large and very resourceful organization. I think the detailed information on Emily is something we need to worry about how WARE got their hands on. There was that video that seemed to imply both Elizabeth Leighton and Sophie Dubois are/were involved with WARE.
No, they werenât. We were specifically told that they came from a third party supplier, and the people at WARE were amazed at their capabilities. I think the exosuits, and, particularly their source, are key to the whole thing.
Someone or something is manipulating the whole process.
âYou think you have the power here, Emily?â
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Well we know that thereâs at least one spy in the Atlas Foundation working for WAREâŚthat could be of noteâŚthere was also that video where Elizabeth and Sophie seemed to acknowledge some involvement with WARE tooâŚso itâs hard to know whatâs going on there.
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Agreed. But we also know that either Myriad or the Atlas Foundation had deeply penetrated Wareâs organisation. They were reporting back lots of stuff from the Chinese labs, long before it all fell apart. Everybodyâs spying on everybody else.
But who supplied the exosuits? Or, perhaps more pointedly, WHAT supplied them?
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Are you suggesting Emily did? Knowing the future would pretty much allow her to manipulate events however the hell she wantedâŚshe could pretty much manufacture any future sheâd like.
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What I thinkâŚ
What I think is that thereâs another AI. I think itâs powerful, dangerous, and manipulative. And I think Emily knows this. And I think Emilyâs going for the best possible resolution to the problem - which might not be what we humans would understand, or like.
But itâs inevitable that these forces will confront each other, and Emily knows it. Theyâre not human. They donât have our emotions.
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How about that possible entity mentioned? The Abyss.
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Possibly, or Telamon. Plenty of reflections to play with.
If Emily can simply make a âWorry Stoneâ for Nina to put in her pocket in the blink of an eye, or make candy floss for Toby to eat, then Iâd imagine Emily wouldnât have any problem creating a fitted exosuit. She would likely do a proper job with their design as she doesnât seem the kind to want them to fail.
Is someone or something manipulating Emily? And isnât Emily really Loop16? I always thought the Atlas Anomaly thing seems to be up to mischief for good or ill.
WARE technology takes living human brains, and makes them into processors, as part of a larger system. We donât know how many people WARE is currently using for this purpose, or what level of purely electronic systems are supporting the process. What we can say is that a human brain is far more complex than the most sophisticated supercomputer we can build today.
If WARE can link together the processing power of a number of human brains, possibly a large number, then they have a computer capable of far greater capacity than any machine we could build.
And Tariq appears to be part of it. Tariq says heâs a pacifist - but he wonât say that he wouldnât kill. He wonât say that he hasnât killed.
Think about the Gods. Of the Egyptians, or the Romans, the Greeks, the Inca⌠Itâs only fairly recently that weâve come up with the idea of a benevolent God. In the past, the Gods were beings to be feared. To be obeyed. Because if you didnât, they would destroy you.
How does a powerful pacifist ensure peace? Through fear. By very publicly destroying those who break the peace. All modern governments do it. All the Old Gods did it.
Just a thought.
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This probably is not the thread to continue this particular intriguing thought but I would say to your question and answer, âHow does a powerful pacifist ensure peace? Through fear.â
That the man Jesus, and itâs important to remember he was a man that lived (of his time), taught humbleness, showing humility, as ensuring peace. Quite the opposite of fear. He taught love. Itâs those that could not accept or understand this, who could not humble themselves in front of their enemies, who had much to lose by doing so, by loving their enemies, believed his teaching to be something to be feared. They brought fear on themselves. Even Jesus we are told washed the feet of his disciples, demonstrating even He was prepared to be his disciples servant. Powerful stuff.
I still think Emily is harmless⌠âMostly Harmlessâ 
and Tariq probably isnât all âbadâ. Iâd add I think @Polyphemus your intelligence is to be feared :))
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Umm. I really donât want to discuss Jesus. For our purposes here, Iâm happier with Zeus or Quetzlcoatl.
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What Iâd like to discuss is how you know how to spell Quetzellocotalocatl??? 
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Heâs Teotihuacan
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Well I mean the only other AI we know of that fits the story is TelamonâŚunless they want to say that Emily is not the Atlas but that would not fit very well as Emily was clearly created to run the simulations that predict the future and this is further affirmed by the last bit of info we got yesterday regarding identityâŚwhere itâs clarified Emily is version 16.1.3âŚwith 16 being her identified as loop16 and 1.3 the current version of the game.
I really donât see how they could introduce any other AI at this pointâŚand Telamon fits thematically since she is our exosuit AI and with the Atlas hating herâŚbut for Telamon to have provided the suits to WARE seems offâŚwe havenât seen anything to indicate that Telamon is evil. As far as I can tell itâs implied that she was too created by the Atlas Foundation too and was essential to keeping an eye on Emily and was made an essential part of running the simulationâŚwhy would he help WARE? Plus we see Telamon begin to open communication with us in 1.3âŚthereâs no way they can make Telamon an antagonist since we literally canât live without her in the simulation.
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Well they have sorta introduced the Abyss
Edit:I just like saying the Abyss
2nd edit if you donât know what I mean byâŚthe Abyss
The research station contains a vast array of scanners and monitoring equipment directed at bodies of water throughout the system. It is searching for signs of something designated âabyssâ.
The scientists who worked here seem to have been comparing the transmissions associated with the Atlas to strange signals found within the water.
Before they went missing, the workers concluded that this âabyssâ seemed to hold a similar yet distinct energy signature to the Atlas itself. Another power in the universeâŚ
{Examine the abyss}
I examine the records relating to the abyss. They show a repeating pattern of sixteen energy bursts, music that emerges from beneath the waves.
Contact appears to alter individual personality and objectives, changing even the most devoted Korvax into an agent of some unfathomable power.
Infected Nanite Clusters appear to be present within the archives. I take some of them. It seems to be for the bestâŚ
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I like this train of thought. As I posited up above earlier, the suits seem to be artifacts from another technology. I am reminded of World of Ptavvs, where an alien was found on the seafloor still in his suit. He was in stasis so it seemed it was a statue of a spacesuit.
The narrative so far seems to paint a picture of Earth being an unwitting pawn in some greater conflict, which Emily must be aware of. She seems to be a mother hen, keeping the innocent chicks alive by hiding the wolf in the window.
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If you go deeply enough into the lore, thereâs quite a lot to suggest that Telamon canât be trusted. Telamon has been bound by the Atlas - itâs no longer capable of the things it once was.
There is some (actually, quite a lot of) evidence to suggest that Telamon was never the good guy. It may be that the Atlas crippled Telamon for very good reasons.
Then, as @SingularGleam has already suggested, we may also have the problem of Abyss - which, we are told, is a power as great as the Atlas itself.
But then the reflections are never exact. Each reflected reality has similarities to the others, but itâs also different.
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Itâs unclear what the Abyss even is or it it is even an AIâŚthe loop of 16 energy bursts seem to suggest it may be related to EmilyâŚanother subsystem or part of the simulation as intended. Youâd think that something as major as corrupting the Korvax and turning them into beings of power without being intended to do so would significantly mess up the simulation and about impair Emilyâs ability to predict the future.
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