Datamining(Maximum Spoilers)

[Jupiter.blues]

Keeping the development team small helps reduce costs significantly. Also, they can get paid pretty well to show up for interviews and as high-profile guest speakers at events. But the amount can only go on for so long that you’d still have to eventually start selling “something”(merch store, another game, in-game ads in the form of cross-overs).

I’m glad they are keeping the money flowing using non-predatory methods. And its good that they are still improving the engine and performance of the game. Seems they still intend to keep the game going for as long as possible .

To be honest, I still don’t mind if they add in-game purchases as long as its only for cosmetic items, serves no benefit in-game other than just a cosmetic item to show your support, and is very low-cost. Cosmetic items such as a photo of the HG team that you can place in your base($1), decals($0.25), bobbleheads($1), or just a “few” exosuit modifications($1), not like Elite, where nearly all cosmetic modifications cost real money.

[Clemm]

@Jupiter.blues – Bobbleheads are a usable feature that affect starship performance, not just decoration.

@Dragonsire – I look at Expeditions as abnormal updates, not regular ones. So I don’t expect new features. If some come, great; an unexpected gift.

I assume new features will arrive in the Anniversary update.

[Jupiter.blues]

Ohyea. Forgot about that. I guess bobbleheads that have no stat bonuses I guess?

[Dragonsire]

I had no idea that bobbleheads had a bonus stat lol

I don’t believe for a second there wont be an update very soon. After all the Nvidia update is coming, the next quicksilver tier needs catalog update to make available in game.

If the BUBPIPE pieces(4) are in fact “Bubble Pipes”, they are referenced as transparent materials, used in reference with the cooking station for the bubble effect . Or in cannisters with water in them. It would be cool be they were used to transport water for usage in cooling tower or water pump objects…but since they are quicksilver…could be anything…

But regardless we need icons and name/decription entries for the quicksilver items… they aren’t going to ignore not having them active for long. Especially with the time limit
on Expedition 2.

Nope it’s ending so something else can take it’s place. So it wont be long. Even if small…there will be another update soon.

[AdaRynin]

The Orange Box? I have that as a blueray ps3 disc right next to me. I don’t even have a PlayStation… I bought it as my contribution to the shared office PlayStation. (We didn’t have a gaming budget. But the managers said we have a budget to buy devices to test Java ME compatibility. The manager ordered a xerox, and the developers ordered a ps3.)

I recall that for consoles, all NMS updates are monolithic, and for PC, they can sometimes release them as smaller patches. Was the last update several GB? I didn’t look at the time to be honest …

[Polyphemus]

I only used the Orange Box as an example of how much game can be packed into so many gigabytes. In the days when a standalone game came on a DVD, you knew how big it was. Nowadays, with mandatory online connections, parts of your game get regularly replaced, and parts of the game you see may actually be running on somebody else’s computer - or several other computers. So how can you know how big your game is?

AFAIK. the Playstation doesn’t, and can’t, download individual game files. This is because the PS DRM scheme requires all the files for an application to be munged together into a single encrypted wrapper, If you want to change any part of it, you have to change the whole thing. This makes updates secure - but huge.

PCs on Steam are not subject to such restrictions, and, in the past, NMS updates have tended to only involve the files that have changed. So an update that might involve many gigabytes on PS, will often only be a few megabytes on PC.

The last update, however, was 3.7 gigabytes on PC. My comparison with the Orange Box was to point out that that’s more than enough data to contain the whole of several complex, graphics-heavy games.

I accept that It’s possible HG just took the easy route, and replaced files they didn’t need to - but that hasn’t generally been their practice in the past. In the history of NMS, large updates have tended to indicate major changes in the game.

[Clemm]

“The manager ordered a xerox, and the developers ordered a ps3.)”

ROFL
LMAO

I just read this post to my PlayStation and No Man’s Sky player son. He had a good laugh.

[Dragonsire]

The files downloaded are PAK files. Containing numerous files structures inside using small blocks of zip compression. Some of the larger files that contain textures etc, even if they change 1 entry the whole PAK would need to be updated.

[Argh]

The huge updates for sometimes very small changes is irritating, especially when it’s just follow-up bugfixes. Mods for the game generally contain override replacements for the individual files within those big paks. However, a mod can just assemble all its files into a single add-on pak. It seems like HG could really benefit from the same system for their smaller updates. Just roll up the few changed/new files into a smaller override patch pak and release that. Then wait for the really big updates to properly update the main paks with the files from the previous patches.

[Dragonsire]

I’m the opposite…I like big files as sometimes future items sneak their way in.

[AdaRynin]

„I like big files and I cannot lie“

I recall when NMS was released every one was in awe that it was only „4“ GB (don’t recall the exact number) and that the procedural generation compressed whole galaxies into that. And someone responded most of these 4GB was the procedural soundtrack.

Can you check which data type increased after the last update? Models/Textures or music?

PS: and follow-up question, if I may: can you tell whether the recent updates add files or replace files? (In what ratio a combination of both)

[Dragonsire]

So they updated QuickSilver List again, Bubble Pipes Removed…

Name: ANTIMATTER OBSERVATION ORB
ID: BASE_NEXUS1
Type: 51 Tier 1
Description: This spiked chamber contains a globule of antimatter, creating an unusual display piece for discerning base builders.

Name: SYNTHESIS CORE
ID: BASE_NEXUS2
Type: 51 Tier 2
Description: A replica of the mysterious orb utilized by Polo’s Quicksilver Synthesis Companion.!NEWLINE!!NEWLINE!The physical properties of the orb are forever shifting in strangely rhythmic patterns: temperature, radioactivity and density all fluctuating to an unheard song.

Name: BUBBLE VAT
ID: BASE_NEXUS3
Type: 51 Tier 3
Description: A miniaturized replica of the bubbling ‘liquid’ vat which forms part of the Space Anomaly’s anatomy. This mesmerizing ornament brings an echo of Polo and Nada’s anomalous home to planetary bases.

Name: TRIPLE BURST FIREWORK
ID: SPEC_FIREWORK04
Type: 50 Tier 1
Description: A luxury firework, featuring a triple-burst symphony of colour. Ignite to create glittering displays in the sky.!NEWLINE!!NEWLINE!Place launch tube via the <VAL_ON>Build Menu<> (BUILD_MENU<>). Warning<>: Aim away from living creatures. Not recommended for indoor use.

Name: DUAL CHROME FIREWORK
ID: SPEC_FIREWORK05
Type: 50 Tier 2
Description: A luxury firework, exploding into sparkling wedges of indium and cadmium. Ignite to create glittering displays in the sky.!NEWLINE!!NEWLINE!Place launch tube via the <VAL_ON>Build Menu<> (BUILD_MENU<>). Warning<>: Aim away from living creatures. Not recommended for indoor use.

Name: WHEEL OF HIRK FIREWORK
ID: SPEC_FIREWORK06
Type: 50 Tier 3
Description: A luxury firework. When activated, this pyrotechnic marvel turns and whorls in a mesmerising spiral. Ignite to create glittering displays in the sky.!NEWLINE!!NEWLINE!Place launch tube via the <VAL_ON>Build Menu<> (BUILD_MENU<>). Warning<>: Aim away from living creatures. Not recommended for indoor use.

Name: TITLE: ‘EXOTIC’
ID: SPEC_TITLE25
Type: 49 Tier 1
Description: An exclusive Explorer Title<>, ‘Exotic’, proudly declaring one’s status as an outlier.!NEWLINE!!NEWLINE!Apply this title to your banner at an Appearance Modifier<>.

Name: TITLE: ‘VOLCANIC’
ID: SPEC_TITLE26
Type: 49 Tier 2
Description: An exclusive Explorer Title<>, ‘Volcanic’, declaring one’s taste for fiery explosions both literal and metaphorical.!NEWLINE!!NEWLINE!Apply this title to your banner at an Appearance Modifier<>.

Name: TITLE: ‘SWAMP-DWELLER’
ID: SPEC_TITLE27
Type: 49 Tier 3
Description: An exclusive Explorer Title<>, ‘Swamp-Dweller’, for those who find joy in places others do not.!NEWLINE!!NEWLINE!Apply this title to your banner at an Appearance Modifier<>.

Name: IGNEOUS CRYSTAL
ID: BASE_LAVA1
Type: 48 Tier 1
Description: A quiet roar sounds from within this natural crystal formation, lava and gas dancing in a perpetual cycle of heating and solidifying. Mesmerising to the eye, but despite the ultrahot core, only slightly warm to the touch.!NEWLINE!!NEWLINE!Provides decorative landscaping opportunities for bases.

Name: IGNEOUS DROP
ID: BASE_LAVA2
Type: 48 Tier 2
Description: This hybrid of egg and rock is known to form around the larvae of certain species, keeping the vulnerable creature warm and protected as it develops over the course of several decades. Membranous splits in the rock’s surface expose the ever-shifting molten heart.!NEWLINE!!NEWLINE!Provides decorative landscaping opportunities for bases.

Name: ARCHAIC HABITATION HEATER
ID: BASE_LAVA3
Type: 48 Tier 3
Description: Although primitive in design, this habitation heater is nonetheless a popular home furnishing. Its hypnotic flames and gentle crackling lend a comforting ambience to any room.!NEWLINE!!NEWLINE!Provides interior decoration opportunities for bases.

Name: MYTH BEACON
ID: MYSTERY_BEACON
Type: 47 Tier 1
Description: The result of Nada’s research into unusual patterns detected in the stories of the <TRANS_TRA>Gek<>, <TRANS_EXP>Korvax<>, and <TRANS_WAR>Vy’keen<>.!NEWLINE!!NEWLINE!The beacon broadcasts a signal echo<> attuned to the shift historiographical flux<> mapped by Nada’s Traveller companions.!NEWLINE!!NEWLINE!Specialist Polo is unwilling to predict the results of the broadcast.

[Dragonsire]

Update contains a lot of Shaders …overall 17997 files added. New Textures also.
Still looking through some of it.

[Dragonsire]

So There is not a log of new Strings added…though they did add files for Season 3.

But here are some interesting ones
UI_SPACE_STATION_CORE_NAME
Station Core

UI_SPACE_STATION_CORE_SUB
Flightpath and Landing Overseer

UI_SPACE_STATION_CORE_LANG
Life support systems: Stable<>… Commercial monitoring: Online<>… Flight path management: 95% efficiency<>…

UI_SPACE_STATION_CORE_OPT
Input Override Code

UI_SPACE_STATION_CORE_RES
Counterfeit code detected…

UI_SPACE_STATION_CORE_DAM_NAME
Damaged Station Core

UI_SPACE_STATION_CORE_DAM_SUB
Corrupt Station Controller

UI_SPACE_STATION_CORE_DAM_LANG

UI_SPACE_STATION_CORE_DAM_OPT
Repair Core

UI_SPACE_STATION_CORE_DAM_RES
CANNOT COMPLETE REPAIR…

UI_STATION_KEY_NAME
STATION OVERRIDE

UI_STATION_KEY_NAME_L
Station Override

UI_STATION_KEY_DESC
A portable data drive containing the AI override codes<> for a Space Station Core.!NEWLINE!!NEWLINE!The importance of the station AI core ensures that such keys are both highly regulated and extremely profitable on the black market.

UI_STATION_KEY_SUB
AI Master Key

UI_FREIGHT_BASE_RESET_OSD
Freighter Structure Reconfiguring SLASH<> Relocating Passengers…

UI_FREIGHT_BASE_RESET_OWNER_OSD
Freighter Structure Reconfiguring SLASH<> Disassembling Base…

UI_FREIGHT_BASE_TRANSFER_OSD
Freighter Structure Reconfiguring SLASH<> Transferring Base…

So apparently this is the AI Core

[gunnar]

No datamining but spoiler nonetheless

No Man's Sky 3.5 PRISMS Gameplay Highlights // No Commentary

[DevilinPixy]

The last 3 items were newly added this update, with I believe the firework already having been in the game, but I’ll add some screenshots regardless.

New QS items

[Dragonsire]

Bubble Pipes got removed From Quick Silver, but they got Icons…

[DevilinPixy]

[jedidia]

Sooo… can you already do something with it?

[DevilinPixy]

Apparently not
I am not convinced though, end even if it doesn’t work, there is likely more related to be found

That was a quick dead-end. Can find the whole interaction in the NMS_DIALOG_GCALIENPUZZLETABLE for the Space Station Core, but it appears no ‘reward’ is specified, which would normally show what happens next.

There is a Damaged Space Station Core as well, once again, without any rewards specified.