Beyond BEYOND - wishlist

Lol. I mean, maybe not so much as selling them but Hello Games features some bases already and it even includes a preview of it in a screenshot. However, not all of them are interesting to me personally and im sure others feel the same too. So what if there was a way to make bases, save them in a sort of blueprint, and be able to share that blueprint with others(or for yourself, to copy-paste things)? They can look at a digital portfolio in game and choose to pick one up. They can then return to a planet of choice and pick a location of choice and build it entirely in one shot if they have all the resources. That way some of us who aren’t the greatest at building can have something nice too. Atleast something to start with.

Imagine that you find a gorgeous planet and find the perfect spot to place a home, and you already have the perfect home layout in your inventory. You just whip it out, place it and boom. Instant beautiful home. Your just left with decorations after.

I know, wild idea.

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Not so sure about the selling, considering NMS wonky economy that might become a tad tedious. But what would be cool would be if we could store construction designs as a new blueprint that allows you to plonk down entire constructs in one click, while still paying the requisite amount of materials. These blueprints would be a better trade item imho, since the one selling them doesn’t really loose any work, and the one buying them doesn’t risk having his investment burried by the next reset. Could even be a very indirect kind of selling and buying, like with discoveries. You “upload” your blueprint and get something for it, and they get added to an archive on the anomaly where people can buy them. Not directly from you, but from the anomaly. That way you don’t have to revamp the economy at all.

EDIT: Damn, I should probably read the whole post before replying next time. You ended up saying pretty much the exact same thing… :laughing:

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Well we HAD all of that in Steam Workshop except it never worked…I remember thinking how nice it was going to be only to be disappointed. There were tons of bases uploaded but no way to download and add to the game. The Sims 4 has a nice My Library section which allows you to download and save buildings that you can then add or delete from you game at any time. Something similar would be nice (as long as base limit and terrain edit reset upon removal of the base)

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Great minds think alike? Lol. I would imagine that its a mechanic that wouldnt be too hard to implement.

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It depends a lot on how structures as a whole are implemented… I do not think they understand themselves as connected structures, probably individual parts don’t even know about their neighbours (otherwise, glitch buildig would face serous issues). Base upload probably just gathers all components lying around inside the base radius, without any understanding of how they connect. Such a stateless system is not very performant, but reduces code complexity by a lot.
But it would mean that for this to work, you’d need a way to mark the parts that should go into the blueprint. Just gathering them all up is a bad option here, due to differences in position resulting from elevation…
It would be much preferable if you could select a bunch of components and say “ok, store this as watchtower”, then mark some other ones and store them as habitat unit or somethin’, and what you’d end up with is a bunch of blueprints of individual buildings that you could put down all over the place.

Such a system would require quite a bit of additional logic, or at least some interface changes to work, I’m afraid.

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Ah I see. That would be quite a bit to do if you want to highlight only specific areas, which would be ideal. The elevation changes can be an issue aswell. The simplest form would be taking the data that a base computer saves and using everything in its range as the blueprint. Essentially writing a code that would take that data and turn it into a placeable object. This way would work likely easiest but the issues I feel it would run into is that your gaming system of choice would probably struggle as its trying to place hundreds or perhaps thousands of objects at the same exact time. Or we’ll be suprised when you plop down someone else’s design and you realise that he or she made what looks like engorged vykeen genitals at the edge of the base building zone. Lol.

Hmm… Maybe have a second base computer type? One that allows building in a smaller circle and on a flat surface with a smaller base complexity to make shareable designs? That way no suprise vykeen sculptures(lol) and less overly-complex structures that encourage you to build structures that allow others to decorate it afterwards. Just spit balling. I do like your highlighting structures to save idea though. That would be ideal.

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I think it shouldn’t be too hard to merge the collision meshes of those objects together into a low-poly preview that can be used for the purpose of positioning.

Hmmmm… that’s a pretty good idea. Except you could make it a multitool mode with an adjustable radius. That might actually be a really good interface choice for such a thing.

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Oh, yeah. A lot of changes that seem “easy” when thinking about them are much more involved to actually code. If some of the game design team thinks that idea would be “neat,” it may well happen. If not, …

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Some people joked about a zoo in game but that would be kinda cool actually. Also, a Museum in-game would be actually really cool. Imagine one museum could be placed every like 10,000LY and that museum can have photos that people took within a 10,000LY radius and also have player-scanned plants and fauna there and maybe even bits of ruins behind glass(from ones that can actually be found within that radius) with lore attatched to them when interacted with. That would give us all a more enjoyable reason to take photos and scan things. As well as points of interest in the galaxy that would give us more reason to travel.

Maybe not make this a priority on their list but it would be neat.

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Okay. Another cool idea. A single biome in a dome in space that you can populate with whatever you want.

Image from Ark: Survival Evolved

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:dragon: Where there is a dragon - There is a dragon’s egg :egg:

Now, if only we could fly them - AND find their nest . . .

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Adjust - ‘Space Encounters’ - to require space flight to a further location - Similar to wanted pirates.

Spreading them out would feel more natural and would increase reasons for space flight. Thanks! :ghost:

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Since Beyond, I have noticed birds coming from the ground. It gives the illusion of a flock of ground-feeding birds suddenly taking flight. Would be awesome if it was really so. Finding a tree full of birds or better yet, seeing them roosting on a powerline would be great! :grin: 894544-qmpbquwrjt-1537089479

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Ability to Walk :walking_man:

On keyboard in 3rd person perspective, my player-character seems to either…

  1. Run - Or
  2. Run fast - Or
  3. Melee forward - Even faster

On my Xbox One corded gamepad, a ‘VERY LIGHT TOUCH’ of the joystick maintains walking.

  • As a Steam keyboard player - Can you add the ability to walk with keyboard?
  • Can you adjust walking with joystick to not require QUITE such a light touch?

It would make it easier and feel more natural, savoring the subtitles of NMS in 3rd person. One of numerous examples would be simply walking through my base. :chair: Thanks for, ‘ABILITY TO SIT!’

Consider,

  • In real life, “Do you normally run all across your house?” :running_man: I don’t, at least.
  • You see, I do not view NMS as simply a ‘GAME,’ but as an ‘EXPERIENCE.’ :sunrise_over_mountains:
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18 quintillion planets…who has the time to walk? :laughing:

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I would like the ability to walk aswell. On some games, I like to take in the scenery and enjoy what was created. Of all games, NMS is the one that is intended to enjoy the scenery. Lol.

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I wish the mushrooms looked more like mushrooms. These are from my yard.



with some laying over like this

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I have looked into this, but walking is impossible when using keyboard. A controller has analogue input, which is absent on keyboards. When using a controller, you can therefor with a slight touch of the movement, walk without getting triggered into the ‘jogging’ animation. Sadly enough, walk and jog are defined in the same ‘single’ animation, so as soon as you cross the threshold, it automatically transforms into jogging. When using a keyboard, input is either on/off, so you always trigger the threshold, resulting in jogging. They would have to split and separate the animation and make a change to the input, where a keyboard would require separate input for either. Not impossible at all, not hard to accomplish either, but clearly HG has not been bothered (yet). Would love to see this implemented!

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How do you find these things? And RayRod as well… Are they not using any obfuscation?

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Yes there is obfuscation, but that has not stopped modders from unpacking the game and decompiling source files (.MBIN), which can then be converted to .xml files. This makes it quite easy to understand a huge part of the game’s internal workings. Over time the modding community had figured out a lot of the obfuscation to know what values represented.

Not that long ago, that obfuscation was removed, suddenly exposing all ‘unknowns’ up to that point. I believe they had done this before as well. This truly helps understand and being able to create cool mods. There are of course still some limitations and not being able to access truly everything. The actual executable being the main culprit of course. There are some truly smart modders out there, creating not only fun changes for the game, but very useful tools to do so as well. Hardly anything remains hidden if you try hard enough :wink:

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