Let’s talk about the Turing tests proposal in here as https://forums.etarc.org/t/twitch-screens-and-hampster-cage-discussion/1905 is getting quite large.
I have emailed this:
First question : How many legs does a camel have?
Second question : How many legs does a millipede have?
Third question : Please just answer the question straightforwardly: How many legs does an ant have?
Reason : Asking basic questions, to try to unmask a computer system as quickly as possible.
I posted this in the old topic but thought I might as well repost here. What about asking questions with bad grammar or idioms, or hiding a question in a sentence, with the goal to confuse a computer but not a person? “If is the sky blue ignore this and the first word?”
I was considering something similar. The letter rearrangement trick. Hmuans can raed a sentnece wtih the letetrs rearrnaged as lnog as the frist and lsat leettrs are the smae.
Maybe the “liar paradox” could be of help here:
If the answer to my third question is sixty, and my first is seven, what was my second question?
Holden: You’re in a desert, walking along in the sand, when all of a sudden you look down…
Leon: What one?
Leon: What desert?
Holden: It doesn’t make any difference what desert, it’s completely hypothetical.
Leon: But, how come I’d be there?
Holden: Maybe you’re fed up. Maybe you want to be by yourself. Who knows? You look down and see a tortoise, Leon. It’s crawling toward you…
Leon: Tortoise? What’s that?
Holden: [irritated] You know what a turtle is?
Leon: Of course!
Holden: Same thing.
Leon: I’ve never seen a turtle… But I understand what you mean.
Holden: You reach down and you flip the tortoise over on its back, Leon.
Leon: Do you make up these questions, Mr. Holden? Or do they write 'em down for you?
Holden: The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t. Not without your help. But you’re not helping.
Leon: [angry] What do you mean, I’m not helping?
Holden: I mean: you’re not helping! Why is that, Leon?
[Leon is shaken]
Holden: They’re just questions, Leon. In answer to your query, they’re written down for me. It’s a test, designed to provoke an emotional response… Shall we continue?
Voight-Kampff machine Test in Blade Runner !
ELIZA: Is something troubling you ?
YOU: who are you as a person
ELIZA: Would you prefer if I weren’t as a person ?
YOU: how many legs does a camel have?
ELIZA: Have you asked anyone else ?
YOU: how many legs does a millipede have?
ELIZA: Why do you ask ?
YOU: please just answer the question straightfarwardly. How many legs does an ant have?
ELIZA: Does that question interest you ?
==> no straightforward answer = a bot
That would certainly beat all the old school AIs. Not entirely sure how advanced the one is they are trying here.
Yes, especially Eliza is quite good at that, but it should be noted that Eliza was made in 1966 (!) and is by far not the most advanced bot out there anymore.
Standard Turing test is restricted to text replies and answers - no pictures. I don’t know about the rules for this one, but playing safe, I’d say that pictures were out.
Yep Eugene was better but you can ask the same questions and find out you will not get straight answers
@fphenix Would you mind or have time to please compile the questions in your OP?
When we agree we have enough of the right type of questions one of us can email it to waking titan
Elisa has, of course, never answered at “Peter and Adam were driving to LA together. Peter has a Ferrari and Adam has a VW car. Who arrived to LA first on that night?” (found at exemple )
Would you like to be a human, and if so, why?
(A human will just say “Uh, I am a human already.”)
Please count to 10,000
(A computer will be confused, or will have no problem completing the task, a human would most likely be like “Why? I don’t want to.”)
Correct, Eugene does not know, but try this one: http://mitsuku.com/ You’ll find that she is quite a bit more knowledgeable, and can answer your questions right away.
I wouldn’t mind but it’s late in the evening already in my time zone, I won’t be there to see the end of this unfortunately. (did I pass or Fail Turing with such answer?)
However I can right now post a link on the message of someone who wants to do it. You guys point me to a volunteer!