Gotcha, sorry misunderstood. Can’t help you with that unfortunately…
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Alright, its probably best if I wait then, I wanted to start with the chain.
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There is no harm in visiting any location. The issues occur when you upload the data.
As long as you don’t go into your menu and manually upload your discoveries, systems you visit remain “undiscovered”. You are fully free to explore any location in the star chain relatively worry free.
Just stay as clear as possible from your “upload all” button. I’ve had nightmares about accidentally hitting that thing and claiming the whole chain 
EDIT: I’m no mathematician, but the signal booster coordinates are “cartesian”. If I can recall correctly, the pattern is X:Z:Y:W, where xyz are your 3d coordinates (I think w is a planetary marker).
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@Xion4012 Doesn’t it record a date stamp of the time it was discovered? That means that anyone who discovers a system after it was first discovered & not uploaded will lose their discovery when the original discoverer eventually uploads their data.
I found this out after discovering a system that was inhabited offline and then later brought online. The name and the discoverer changed.
Any mode works for discoveries too doesn’t it? Normal, survival, creative, etc but is separated over pc /ps4.
I’d be very nervous about having a massive list of non-uploaded discoveries in my menu that could effectively wipe the hub chain.
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One of the major problems here is the use of vocabulary. “Discover”, “claim”, and “upload” all mean the same thing to me. It occurs when you enter your menu and either upload the location manually, or “upload all discoveries”.
(Some of this is speculation)
When you visit a system, your gaming device requests data from the NMS servers, the server then sends back the information. If location information has not uploaded to the server by another player, it can’t be requested. I noticed this when traveling the Hub, locations that our scouts thoroughly explored were completely undiscovered. They always say “you discovered this” when entering, even if the system had been visited before. The information will only appear to other players if the data has been uploaded by another player.
If not, CrossID would own most of the chain 
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For me I use the term ‘discover’ in the context that ‘I’m the first’ (unless it is the generic bit that pops up on screen the first I enter any system and it will now appear in my list).
I use the term ‘claim’ when I decide to officially take possesion: be it a base or by uploading my finds or names.
I consider ‘uploading’ simply to be the process by which I make a claim.
I try to never have many unclaimed/non-uploaded in my menu due to the risk of accidentally claiming/uploading them.
My prefered method for invisible investigations is to perform a hardsave, then warp about, look around, take note, then reload back at my previous save leaving things as if I never went exploring.
Admittedly, I’m old school and typically have a notepad beside me to jot down things should something in particular get my interest.
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I prefer the “old school” as well, I wrote down all the information I gathered from the Hub. However, I very rarely upload anything I discover. I tried naming things when I got to the Hub, but all 3 times it has come back to bite me in the a**. Never again…
I have yet to figure out exactly how the new save system works. The non-auto save file I have is from 2 weeks ago.
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LOL. I had somehow gotten the impression long ago that if I was the first to “discover” then I would be the only one able to name/upload. There were some pretty strange system names showing up in the neighboring clusters and I was hoping to hold the chain down for ECSD capitol, etc. Turns out I was wrong 
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I had forgot that system coordinates where in hexadecimals. I remember reading some where how to convert it long hand, but no need for google docs spreadsheet has a function for converting hexadecimals to decimals.
I have collected the coordinate data and done a little research.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wXEG4hgwqhMsdVTlw-bSkFVFlQE53ssNF_BK7_6XBj8/edit?usp=sharing
Looks like the hexadecimal coordinates only gets you to a box in space containing a group of stars. So converting the xyz to decimal isn’t accurate enough to map the chain. The 4th Hex in the series (the W) is called Solar System Index in the code. There was some speculation that the index located the system with in the box the first 3 HEX coordinates located.
Anyways, maybe there is another in game way to map it. Red shifts out. Reality capture? There was a guy scaling planets by traveling the same time out backward from each planet. The only thing we have in the galactic map is the distance from center ( if its not rounded up to much) and the distance between stars. Could measure the angle between stars with a protractor. Thoughts?
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Personally, I’d be inclined to draw it all on paper using a chart plotting the chain and its stars locations from 2 points of view. Then I’d draw up a second series of system maps; one for each system, showing the central star and its planetary bodies with relevant information under each one.
You’d end up with about 160 pages (I think, I can’t remember the number of planets of the top of my head).
You could make a book! 
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@alonemusic Dont spose you wanna make another sweet ass coffee table book? 
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Ha! One was hard enough (and available to pre-order now).
It would be great to somehow capture all of Waking Titian in something big and harback though, with maps and history and cool screenshots…
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Would like to suggest while we’re exploring the systems of the star chain and adding to the star catalog, that we submit any capitol potentials for consideration. Then if we’re going to have a capitol, we should get on with the vote so its settled and we can proceed with other developments.
Or … Here’s a ‘crazy’ idea, rather than selecting a singular ‘capitol’ why not designate the entire star chain as our capitol zone? Then we can explore it for resources and amazing sights to be seen, record these finds in the star catalog for all to share. When hub residents want to do a ‘get together’ we can designate a meeting system/planet (not always the same one). Do we have to conform to the ‘Hub Norm’ by designating a capitol?
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I really like the non-conformist idea of NOT having an individual capital system and instead regarding the chain as our ‘centre’. Excellent concept!
We can still choose to name the remaining systems according to convention and include a few favourite names. We can have embassy systems, resource listings, residential adresses and heavily catalogue the whole chain (even the dud named ones) and simply have the largest capital zone of all the Euclid hubs.
Be a bit different.
The current system of voluntary leaders and listed systems is working great so lets just embrace it… and with a huge capital zone, there’s room for everyone.
Gets my vote!
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I like the idea that the hub capitol is the whole chain. I thought if we expand we should claim other chains, Like @Oshoryu’s. Not the regions around us.
We could get a bunch of name suggestion vote for most popular, added in the ones we have decide already. then use @discobot to roll a 1d37ish die and assign names as rolled.
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Hi! To find out what I can do, say @discobot display help.
Once we have the hub area sorted we could band together and pounce on other chains. Have a network of sorts…
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Two weeks ago, I started a new normal mode game on PC. The idea was to build up the character to a sufficient point to travel to the chain, and replicate the ETARC Capital in the PC universe. I then intended to abandon the game, so the Capital base would remain for everyone to use.
My new character now has a nice living glass farm, a freighter, three ships, 150 million in the bank, and is up to thirteen glyphs. He’s nearly ready to hit the ETARC chain.
Now I find that there isn’t going to be a Capital planet.
I think I’ll just move my regular base into one of the chain systems, and call the system something like “Polyphemus’ Capital Embassy ECSD”
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Your fine, these our just ideas. Remember we are a democracy. So it needs to be voted on, anyone can call for a vote.
Now, you do bring up a point. Really the whole firefly chain has always been the apex of the hub, so its the Capitol grounds in away. Don’t we still want one planet that will have a base that is our capital building. We did go to all the trouble of naming the capital system and planet.
Anyways, @Polyphemus thank you for what you’re doing. Have you started a topic, I would love to here about your journey?
Just reached AGT region. They use “embassy” bases to mark “capital” planets in their regions. I would suggest to reuse this idea for a number of star chain regions. Some gorgeous lush planet with wealthy economy should be a good attracting point to place an embassy.
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