As I said, it wasn’t a prediction - I was just riffing on the idea of a prohibition on fires - and it turns out that respectable exobiologists have come up with a theory (only a theory, mind), that could offer a plausible explanation.
It’s just an idea to kick around.
You guys got me thinking that whatever the nature of the world is outside of itself, will probably only ever be alluded to and left up for people to discuss and theorise. We might get an origin tale or myth of the world but it will most likely be folklore-ish and metaphorical in style.
Which got me thinking about the lore for the game itself, if it’s as big as a world as it sounds…
I would love if the game had something like a proc genned history of eras and ages similar to how Dwarf Fortress generates it’s history, that we as a community had to piece together by exploring the world and its ruins.
Maybe learning about the empires that ruled over regions etc in the past.
Some regions might pique players interest more than others and you’ll have “historians” and “archaeologists” flock to sites to help uncover more of the lands history.
This is not actually a solution to the Fermi paradox. The assumption that FTL travel is impossible is built into it. It’s still an unsolved puzzle why we don’t see any evidence. The duration of slower than light travel is not actually a hinderance on galactic timescale. A civilisation that develops successful interstellar travel and starts to spread throughout the milkyway galaxy can colonize it in a paltry couple of million years, and that’s assuming a very leisurely pace of expansion. This assuming that there is no intentional, concentrated effort to actually do it, which would be extremely unlikely to be upheld over such timespan by any civilisation except for relatively dumb self-replicating machines. Those could do it a lot faster. And one of the questions is, in fact, why there isn’t any evidence of those around. They rank among the most probable means such an expansion would employ, and so far we can’t see any evidence that they’re at work anywhere.
Another logical path to take for advanced civilisation is that of dyson swarms, in order to solve the energy problems that will neccessarily arise. The thing with those is that by now we have the capability required to detect them over a range of thousands of lightyears.
In my opinion, there’s three reasonable solutions to the fermi paradox which are slightly less speculative than the others:
One, The future of advanced civilisations looks entirely different than what we can currently imagine. Given our past track record with imagining the future in the light of an unavoidable presentism, I consider this one very likely, but won’t make a fool out of myself by trying to speculate what those civilisations would actually look like.
Two, we simply didn’t have our capabilities for long enough to actually detect anything. Given the amount of exoplanets we’ve discovered at outright incredible distances, this one is becoming more and more unlikely.
Three, we’re among the first. It’s not as preposterous as it sounds. The galaxy needed the first couple billion years just to produce the heavy elements that make our technology possible. While there was ample time for others to arise (and colonise the galaxy) before we ever walked on two legs, the time is not so long that you’d have to consider the possibility inevitable.
All other solutions have more or less big problems, but are in general too depressing for me to really consider while I have more hopeful alternatives, though they do make for great science fiction (for the berserker hypothesis specifically, I can recommend Alastair Reynold’s revelation space series).
I’m hoping for a slowly discoverable lore in Light No Fire. An ability to learn spells etc. Would fit the fantasy RPG too.
Time will tell.
Time for another trailer, Sean. We need more concrete things around which to speculate. 
Probably THE best Sean Murray Interview was done by that man,
I have watched it many times over the years. It goes through his career history in depth and talks a little bit about growing up with videogames
A question for the group to ponder:
At the conclusion of Waking Titan, this group took over the former WT discussion group as a No Man’s Sky forum.
When Light No Fire launches, will we become a forum for that game? We have no agreement from Hello Games to do so.
Personally, I think it’s a good idea, but that’s just me. What’s the general opinion?
My opinion is that having both on this forum would be a bit discordant.
If there was a high-level filter that could be set by the individual that resulted in only NMS or only LNF threads being displayed then that might work.
I think it will BECOME a LNF forum as well as a NMS forum regardless.
I hope that we can convince HG to allow us new banners so that we can be both. It’s pretty obvious that us NMS players are going to be all over LNF so we are going to discuss it any way.
May as well make it official.
I have to agree that it would be a bit messy if we had 2 games in one forum with the only thing separating the two being some tags. But if done correctly, it could work. I think having a combination of new tags AND a new filter to seperate each game could work. Perhaps at the top of the page could have “NMS” and “LNF” buttons so we can switch between the two at any point while remaining in the same site.
Its worth noting that this site might see a bit more traffic/users/commenters/posts after LNF releases so moderators may have their hands full.
Yes, I imagine so. As @Mad-Hatter said, we will probably carry Light No Fire posts anyway - most people here seem interested. The question is whether we try to do it officially. At the moment, we don’t have permission from Hello Games to do it, and they’re paying for the site.
I would say they will most likely do the usual reddit/discord thing.
No Mans Sky didn’t exactly launch with a forum.
We all went on an ARG journey together and it turns out the real treasure, was the forum we gained along the way 
Now if LNF was to have some sort of ARG and that ARG’s forum became a sister to this one… That would be cool. If they just made a forum it would feel odd because I feel that’s what Discord/Reddit is essentially.
And I really do think they will have an ARG for LNF.
I was working through the langfiles for Singularity, the Expedition that was supposed to have ARG clues. It’s release wasn’t too far off from the LNF trailers release. I get the sense originally we were supposed to uncover that trailer as a community but then maybe they got a slot with Geoff that summer for the VGA and quickly changed course.
I know we now attribute the “arg clues” to just the stuff hidden in the atlas audio files but a lot of the messaging delivered during that Expedition was done server side. It’s something they could have changed at any point and it’s odd that they would do it this way when a lot of the other autophage messages are in plain sight. The message relayed by Echo Collective didn’t seem too much different from what was already in the files to want to keep hidden from dataminers.
I do think an ARG would make sense leading up to LNF’s release, it would be a fun way to get everyone excited and occupy those who aren’t already passing the time by drawing a potato farmer, and if it’s to get a forum I would hope it comes from something like this.
Something along the lines of a blog being kept by a fantasy novel fan who starts making posts about a strange book they found, perhaps a wardrobe which is lined… It’s ARG trope 101. Done 
I want to stay in one place. I find it tedious to jump fromone app to another to keep up with everything…we may just have to EDIT
Ask for help
We don’t have the administrative access to do that - and we don’t actually know who does. The best we can do is contact some anonymous screen name, who may or may not be a Hello Games staffer.
And all that hinges on whether we want to become an official LNF forum, and whether HG will agree.
Correct and understood.
In fact, it might not be a bad idea to ask now…
A way to have both NMS and LNF discussions here would be superb. The quality of discussions and extremely cooperative friendly atmosphere is unmatched by either reddit or discord.
It could be as simple as just having an LNF tag similar to how we have a General Discussion tag for posts. It’s a NMS forum where LNF talk is permitted. This does not mean there also can’t be a LNF forum where NMS talk is permitted, if one is even on the cards.
If they do make a forum it should be called the Denizens Alchemical League 
Gamesradar is advertising a Golden Joystick Award, where, on page twelve or so, you can vote for the most anticipated game, where you could theoretically select Light No Fire… 
Done! Thanks for that info!
No Mans Skys absense from the “Still Playing” category is criminal. And its making me pick 3? Can I just pick Minecraft 3 times?
LNF, Fable and DS2 for most anticipated.
I feel like a lot of my choices were “I haven’t played any of these but I’ve heard of this…”. Nothing more dangerous than an uninformed voter >:)
