So all of this time dependent fishing in NMS has made me wonder if LNF will have a short day/night cycle that advances quickly as it does in NMS or, will it have a real-time 24 hour clock. I kind of like the idea of the latter but it has its cons. There are a few games I play that follow real time and I do like it but it makes certain tasks difficult because I just can’t stay awake at night. Of course, there is always the ‘adjust your clock on your console/PC’ approach but that has its own issues. Nintendo is famous for Mr Ressetti for this reason…
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I would say for the interest of timezones and peopel playing from all over the world or some people only being able to play at night or only during the day, the game will have a day/night cycle probably set across an hour or half hour.
It could do a 24 hour real cycle but then I think for the interest of players and QOL, there would be nothing you couldn’t do or get at night that you couldnt do or get at day and I feel that would be counterintuitive for the game.
If it tracks your local time this might work but people from different parts of the world playing together will be experiencing different visuals and spawns etc so it will have to be server tied. How do you have it set so the best parts of the day happen at a time that is suitable for everyone in the world?
I would say it will have a relatively short Day/Night Cycle. I say 30 mins to an hour because thats how most games handle it. I’m thinking of Minecraft, Project Zomboid, Valheim etc but I’m wondering how Ark handles its day/time length?
Of any of those games, Arks seems like one that might do a 24 hour real cycle tied to server locality, or if not that its day night cycle might be a couple of hours instead of under 1?
Ark Players, bring forth your knowledge!!
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That sounds like a really bad idea in a multiplayer game… you could meet people for which it is night while it is day for you…
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It’s been a while since I played multiplayer, so things may have changed - but this certainly used to be the case. I have met other players when it was night time for me, but day for them. Weather also seems to be determined locally, so some players in a group can be battling a killing storm - while for others, the weather is fine and sunny. I suspect it has also happened with animal and sentinel attacks - where one player is being attacked, but the others can’t even see an enemy.
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Weather syncs up in groups, certainly better than it did when it first arrived, time and day seems to change if a player with a better connection than everyone enters the system '
With LNF having MP in mind from the get go, I imagine they’ll go with a server clock so everyone is in sync.
That was my next sentence after bringing it up. I was hypothesising all approaches to show none of them will work except something that gamefies time and takes into consideration a global community 
So prob the standard 30-60 min cycle I imagine.
What about seasons though… It’s a world. It should have seasons. Do you think this is something they’ll try do? I can’t think of any mmo that’s done this outside of seasonal events and some texture changes for a few days around Halloween and Christmas.
But different parts of the LNF world having different weather in different regions at different points of the year?
That’d be cool. Or instead of real time seasons it could be a weekly or monthly season change.
It’s just only occurred to me this game world would feel ten times more alive if it had the boon of axial tilt
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Staff Sling
Rope whistle
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Ah, the handheld trebuchet. Did not expect to find a video from Todd on this forum, to be honest…
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You can make the staff sling, I’m gonna make that rope sing.
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Stick string rhythm
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Hey I remember that guy, I watched them as a child! They did funny things!
Kuh Rio sittiiii! wobbel wip wombo owai!
Kuh Rio sitti! … scho!
I remember it well. … There might have been the slight problem that I didn’t understand English yet.
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I’ve been speaking English for 70 years, and I stll struggle with songs.
What should I make of “Tutti fruity, aw rooty, a wop bop a loo bam a lop bam boom”?
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It’s lilting except when you don’t have fiddles and whistles to emulate but big brass 50’s rock sounds Or maybe its supposed to be drums?
That’s my musical head canon for tutti frutti anyway… I’m sure it’s something entirely different, like Post-War National Trauma 
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When I was about 7 years old, there were 2 guys who called me Tutti Frutti and it nearly drove me into a life of recluse. At the time, it was a popular ice cream flavor. I refused to ever eat it.
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Interesting topic (bit off topic), lilting is a cool example that I didn’t know.
Singing syllables is very common and developed independently across many cultures, you are not supposed to make anything of it, just listen to it. 
In Jazz it’s scat. If it uses falsetto, it’s Scandinavian joik or Swiss Jodler or US Yodel. You mention lilting. Wikipedia compares it to many other international singing styles that I don’t even know. If it is all vowels and no consonants, it’s Italian Coloratura. Beatboxing could be another extreme of spectrum. Eurovision has a crazy folk song every few years that makes two neighbours fight “outrageous, that style is typical for our culture, not yours!” …
It keeps getting invented over and over independently for different reasons and purposes: wanting to simulate instruments, lacking instruments, wanting the voice to carry far across the landscape, trance, “forgot the lyrics lol”…?
Oh look, someone in the nineties added scatting to a Finnish folk song and someone else remixed it online in the 2000s… It just doesn’t die!
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I am all in for this becoming the History and Evolution of Cultures & Music Theory thread. Sorry Light No Fire…
I hope those 2 guys drove into a wall 
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Although it doesn’t qualify as ‘singing’, my father, when very angry, had an entertaining (& somewhat frightening), ability to spontaneously string a series of curses & different language swears together into a hilarious stream of scary nonsense.
It was like every stubbed toe & personal insult were saved up for extreme occasions & would then be suddenly unleashed unto the world.
It was very hard to keep a straight face.
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I don’t want to appear insensitive, but I wish I had had only 2 guys calling me names…
It did drive me into a life of recluse, though.
Reminds of mule drivers. Unlike most people in the west, I did have the priveledge to live in a city where there was a mule driver still doing wood deliveries. And it really did appear like that whole construct on 4 legs and 4 wheels was entirely driven by one very loud, continuous stream of swearing. You can’t imagine it if you just read it, it’s something you have to experience. The spontaneous, effortless creativity, and the bloody voicework that goes into that are downright amazing.
The effect on your kids might not be that amazing in western countries, but in Bosnia it’s already customary for parents and kids to exchange F*** yous (and, of course, your mother), so it’s not changing things by that much.
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This is not a prediction – I was just letting my mind wander a little, and I thought about Light No Fire, and why you would light no fires.
The physicist Enrico Fermi asked the question “If life on suitable planets is inevitable, and the universe is teeming with such planets, then where are they? Why have we found absolutely no evidence of extraterrestrial life? This absence of alien life is known as the “Fermi Paradox”.
Various theories have been proposed to explain the Fermi Paradox. Faster than light travel may be impossible. The distances between stars may may just be too great for interstellar travel to ever be practical.
Alternatively, some have suggested that humanity is the first technological civilisation. Millions of planets have life, but Earth is the most advanced.
One proposal is the “Berserker Hypothesis”, first proposed by Fred Saberhagen, and supported by David Brin and others.
In the Berserker Hypothesis, as a remnant of an ancient interstellar war, there exists a race of self-replicating machine intelligences. They tap stars for energy, and mine asteroids for raw materials. They make more of themselves, and they travel the universe. Their purpose is to seek out the tell-tale signs of intelligent civilisations, and destroy those civilisations. The reason we do not see evidence of alien civilisations is because they have all been destroyed by berserkers – and now, here on Earth, we are lighting fires, burning fossil fuels, and sending out radio signals – sending out exactly the electromagnetic signature the berserkers are looking for.
Now that would be a good basis for a world where you can’t light any fires. Where technology is banned, and people have to rely on nature, and maybe magic. Technology is simply too dangerous to be used – it could bring about total destruction. The only way to survive is to stay under the technological radar.
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I think the fans who want to bridge the two games spiritually would be happy with this if turned out to be true, plenty for them to work with there.
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I think it would not be logical to link a SciFi space game with a Fantasy RPG. I hope that does not happen with Light No Fire.
A do lust for another LNF trailer, though!
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