Concert Memory Email Investigation

As @thewingcmdr noted the email has been updated.

swstem et Hello korld typos have been corrected. Now read as system and world.

Accents for e are still f

Accent for a is still m

There is something here to l :eyes: k in the french text

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To elaborate on this now I’ve had some thinking time…

As others have noted here (and was noted on the drop in NMScord), it’s a full diacritic fall-through (5 characters, ~30+ instances in the message):

The “school code” cipher only defines A->Z key-letter mapping (so far).
Diacritic letters appear literally instead of encoding their base letter (complete fall-through, not relational decipher):

Char Base letter In ciphertext as Relation based decode
à a à (pass-through) Cipher M (A->M)
é e é (pass-through) Cipher F (E->F)
è e è (pass-through) Cipher F (E->F)
ê e ê (pass-through) Cipher F (E->F)
û u û (pass-through) Cipher U (U->U)

So, theoretically: The author didn’t strip diacritics before applying the cipher. They wrote French with proper accents and then only substituted the unaccented A–Z letters via the key table, leaving accented characters as-is. The proper cipher process would (if relational) produce only A–Z output; the reader would then infer diacritics from context. Here the author merged both steps into one mixer - which makes sense if you treat the cipher correctly and don’t assume relational decipher.

Thinking about the cipher a little more:
These ciphertext letters decode to themselves, no substitution. They look like they weren’t encoded, but they are correct:

D→D   G→G   J→J   L→L   P→P   Q→Q   U→U   X→X   Z→Z

These could be considered part of the same “fall-through” category, in theory, where they join a group of plaintext values. Probably not though.

Non-French sentences

As others have noted here (and was noted on the drop in NMScord), two ‘English’ passages exist within the French:

  1. « Bonjour world » - Ciphertext: Iwcjwuk vwkld. French “Bonjour” + English “world” = mixed-language code-switch. Weird choice, but you can associate obvious reasons easily.
  2. « There is a DJ in your Town » - Ciphertext: Ymhkh br f DJ bc twuk Ywvc. Fully English. Very specific. Would a concert poster in Lyon be in English?

Both use guillemets, as they should. They are intentional quotes at their face value (or are they…?).

It’s hard to say if the diacritics should be read into. They are 100% compliant with the cipher key/text.
I am more interested in the final paragraph: the use of mixed language and the odd way the paragraph is phrased.

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@William said: did you mean F not H?

Sure did. Corrected now lol :sweat_smile:

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Im not seeing any update to the email, looks the same to me as my original paste from it. Can you elaborate?

@vector_cmdr

There is a dj in your town is from a song and it has been sampled a few times by a lot of djs, its possible this made it a popular english phrase to also put on fliers for concert events.

I thought it might help us find this 2013 concert in lyon but no luck, no idea if english phrasing on fliers is a trend in france either.

I like this idea that the last pargraph itself is aome sort of code. Does it hide in the translation, in the French, or the original coded email, I wonder :thinking:

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The trouble with that is that translation is only ever, at best, an approximation.

If you run the French text through different translation engines, you get wildly different answers. The sense remains more or less the same, but the actual wording can differ greatly. I imagine the same would be true if you asked 10 different bilingual humans to translate it - you would get 10 different answers - all with a similar meaning, but using different words.

It’s difficult to imagine a code that doesn’t rely on the exact placement of exact words with exact spelling.

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Spot on, the translated contents aren’t safe to be transformed because they aren’t a reliable input.

Edit, “There is a DJ in your Town” is still a mind-splinter that seems like null cipher and all I can think of is “There is always money in the banana stand” :zany_face:

Also, who capitalizes a common noun? Are we looking for “Town” in a proper noun type context? E[T]ARC? Is the DJ in here with us now? I need more sleep perhaps.

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Google search result for various Lyon 2013 posters :link:

Not sure if any of the results stand out to someone. I am deep diving into this ‘DJ in town’ phrasing, see what I can come up with. My main issue is actually search engines themselves … sigh

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Very true, I had two different take-aways from a google translate, and then I got one from @AlexWinter who is a native french speaker, but direct translation can differ from person to person too, as localisation is an art unto itself.

Just going to twiddle my thumbs until my heart allowance comes back. You deserve several for the banana stand reference.

There is a DJ AI in our Township.

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It would need to be done on the original French, if so.

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Or possibly the cipher. I noticed “DJ” is the same in both.

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In the early scenes of movies, you sometimes get passages like “Hello, Darling, I’m home from my badly paid job as a widget salesman with the skinflint company Blobbit and Scud”.

The dialogue is totally unrealistic – the parties involved would already know this. It pretends to be conversation, but it’s really included to let the audience know the situation. When it’s badly done, it can be very grating.

It’s variously known as “forced exposition”, or an “information dump”.

The strange structure of the Lyon concert text may be no more than that – a clumsy attempt to include information that doesn’t really fit, but the audience needs to know.

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This does currently feel like the answer for sure with the tinfoil hat off.
An expository way of saying “Emotive memories guys, kind of like these ones you share with dear friends”.

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If that were the case, and it is just forced exposition, then it would tell us that this Ghost/Null person isn’t Null from NMS, but a real person who attended a concert in Lyons in 2013, around the time of their birthday.

If anything, finding the concert may be a small hint towards Ghost’s identity, as we would have an idea of what time of year their birthday was, but this would only be helpful if we knew their birthday?

Or, perhaps the architect is planning to wish Ghost a happy birthday in the coming months, to give us another clue as to when the concert happened for a timestamp entry?

I dunno. I still lean toward there being a hidden message.

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This makes sense. I’ve attempted to submit some personally emotive memories around NMS (I wasn’t here for WT). I’m doubtful, but if any of these get added, it would tell us it doesn’t need to be about WT specifically.

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Germans do.

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Troublemakers! <3

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There’s a DJ in your town

At the moment, all I can think of is DJ Shadow. Well known for using ‘There’s a DJ in your town’ in the track ‘Organ Donor’ from his debut album ‘Endtroducing’. It also appears in the track after, 'Why Hip-Hop Sucks in ‘96’

Great article about the album ‘Endtroducing’:

The article hits quite strong in the introduction part when it comes to memory.

Dj Shadow, together with Cut Chemist, have also been known to reconstruct the beat to ‘Groove is in the heart’ in their shows, using actual source vinyl (Afrika Bambaataa collection).

I am however not able to link him to Lyon, so possibly a dead end?

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The phrase comes from an original record from 1969 by “Samson and Delilah and the Boss City People”.

It’s been covered and sampled by lots of people. I won’t go into a list here.

The thing I wanted to point out is that it’s called There’s a DJ in Your Town - not There is

In fact, I’ve been unable to find the phrase “There is a DJ in your town” anywhere.

Error? Deliberate? Who knows?

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The only one that matches that I’ve managed to find is the one mentioned by @Travars earlier that I slapped in the Discord in the initial chaos:

There is a DJ in your town
Who calls himself Mix Master
He says there is none as great as he
There’ll be none in the hereafter
He spins, he scratch, he mixes the sounds
We all wanna hear
Spyro-gyro type of sound
That’s strange to the ear

Lyrics bounce between D.J. and DJ per site, so who knows on that specific rendering.

Edit: either way, clue or not - it’s giving me some neat stuff to listen to.

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I posted a site earlier that claims to list all known sample uses, though i find it hard to believe as it seems to only list well known acts and djs, no doubt its safe to assume its been sampled by dozens when you take the underground scene into account and of course how easy it is nowadays to make music in your bedroom on all manner of devices.

I took the emails end as an exposition dump with some clues as to dates and a specific nod to NMS reveal year, which was 2013. Its the only important date I know of for its development/WT lore, which is what had me looking for DJ shows in Lyon from december. It was also good insight into these two school friends last in-person encounter. It seems this project has drawn them back into communication with eachother, or perhaps they were always in touch, just life had pulled them apart in different directions, as it often does.

Judging by how secretive Ghost is, I get the impression they contacted their old school friend, the architect, for help, as they remembered them to be quite technically able and astute. Ghost may even be bank rolling this endeavour.

Architect mentioning they spent a lot of their life working on this, also implies they may have been aware of what happened with the dreamers and Emily, and has been trying since 2018 to recover her, but their age/highschool years would indicate they weren’t senior members of any of the company’s involved, and also may have never worked there at all. Just heard things through the grapevine.

I cant recall if this year held any importance within waking titan lore, like if one of the fictional company’s was founded then etc but not everything was documented on the wiki. Though searching the archives here for “2013” between set dates of 2017/2018 could produce something fruitful, but I fear it would mostly return a lot of links that have this number within its string.

@vector_cmdr

Woooo, george clinton, what a hero :ok_hand:

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