I like the wiki-fied top posts, seems to be perfect for an ARG.
How’s the usability, especially for new joiners? When I open a thread, it obviously opens near the bottom where I left off. Even I usually forget to jump to the top… Out of sight, out of mind.
In Discord, readers are familiar with a “read the pins!” reaction. And we have this new pencil icon.
Can you create a top-level “pinned post” whose title says “Here for the ARG? Read the summaries in the firsts posts before posting”? (And inside in short: “forum members try to keep the first posts up-to-date so you don’t have to ask where’re we at …”
Thanks for the feedback, very useful. I totally see how actually making use of the top post, might not be too obvious for users. More familiar users of our forum, have at least somewhat grown used to it. We as leaders have used top posts more commonly with certain topics, although never before with the Wiki Post feature.
We do have pinned topics, but within each of the categories. I am trying to think of additional ways to make the use of ‘top post’ clearer. The ‘memo’ icon was my initial attempt at introducing these, explaining these in further detail and listing them all in this pinned topic: Project Skyscraper - Welcome / Info. I will revisit the current description and see if I can rework the text for improved clarity.
I am afraid a lot of users may be skipping the use of the categories, and just navigate from the front page. I can create global pins, which would then end up pinned on front landing page, but not sure I should. It would give Project Skyscraper special treatment over other categories. I will however consider this, and discuss with the other leaders, to possibly temporarily do so.
Tapping Project Skyscraper, for instance, takes me to the list of topics, where I can quickly see which topics are currently active as well helping me to find the appropriate topic I need to make my post in.
Well, users can unpin anything we pin if they wish to, at the bottom of a topic. There is also a setting that is (sadly) enabled by default, which unpins a topic when you get to the bottom.
This setting can be found in your settings > preferences > Interface
Keeping topics pinned at all times would be a global backend setting we have no access to. There is no possibility to have some to always stick, and others to follow default, for as far as I am aware.
Also just did some edits/cleanup finally - it’s quick and easy and the MD support makes it easy to keep formatting sensible. Thanks @DevilinPixy and team!
Thank you all for the feedback.
I am truly happy to see this works out well so far.
That said, we have decided to not make exceptions for Project Skyscraper to be using ‘global pins’. Main reason for some users usually not finding information to get started, is due to unfamiliarity with the forum (Discourse) structure. As long as we provide some guidance here and there, and users take the time to familiarise themselves, it usually works out fine.
I have however gone over the Project Skyscraper - Welcome / Info and restructured it some more. The use of ‘categories’ hopefully being somewhat clearer now, using category links as well.
It looks like any edit bumps the topic back to top. It appears that bumping it with an additional reply is not required. It may however still be useful at times, to create a reply that describes the changes made.
Good practice would be to at least provide a reason when making edits:
Top right pencil icon to click
Just dropping in to say, I think it works great as a collaborative tool! The only concern I initially had was about open edit permissions, but our wonderful community’s done an amazing job keeping spam out of wiki pages!
Side tangent, but I just hit the 32000 word and 10-user pings per post limits on the timeline post. I didn’t even know there were limits for those!
It’d be useful to have a thread reply pinning feature, but if that isn’t possible, could the top reply to the thread be turned into another wiki post? Or maybe a new continuation reply that I post could be moved up to the top reply and turned into a wiki? I’d love to keep that thread in a nice, continuous order directly on ETARC!
Thanks for making us aware of those limitations. I was actually made aware of the 10 user mention limit earlier. I suggested to instead use the ‘back ticks’ to sort of ‘fake’ them instead. It would have the functionality of course, with profile showing and linking when clicked. But it would look similar enough to all understand. If really needed, a user can then still copy it in a search.
So as follows:
`@ThatBomberBoi`
Shows as: @ThatBomberBoi
For the word limit, I agree to use the next reply and turn it into a ‘wiki post’ as well. If we need to juggle to insert a reply, we’ll handle it, although reserving if you are likely to reach that limit, is perfectly fine with me.
Do let me know if this topic below is the one that needs a follow-up wiki post:
All useful stuff to know, very citizen sciencey to find where the limits are.
What I can’t understand is how @William overcame the three posts in a row limit on their Monday Recap thread That’s sorcery! Citizen Sorcerer Division?
Thanks for the heads up! I can go ahead and juggle the mentions to see which ones to backtick in a bit to clear out the limit in case we need the popups in there at some point.
And yes, that’s the one! It’d be awesome if I could add in a reply rn and it could be moved sequentially after the top post! (much nicer than overriding poor @YourBasicMaths’s contributions to the topic ) I can go ahead and drop the WIP reply in there to move up if you’d like?
@ThatBomberBoi Should be ok now, reply injected and made wiki-post. Might want to indicate it using 2 posts as wiki topic, and maybe move a section from 1st to 2nd to leave some spare room?
Yep, looks perfect here! I’ll go ahead and do all the spring cleaning needed now
I’ll try to keep the ramblings a lil short so that I don’t have to ask y’all to do this too often, but that depends entirely on how much content @the_architect decides to throw out this month haha.
How many #GlitchedRealities and memes did we make again?
But yes, I prefer to have our lives be easy, hence the mentions as suggested instead of us possibly adding over and over again. Inserting a reply every now and then, is fine with me. Curious to see how multi-wiki-post works out.
Thanks you as well for the effort put into this.
The more we work together, the easier it becomes for us all
firsts posts before posting”? (And inside in short: “forum members try to keep the first posts up-to-date so you don’t have to ask where’re we at …”
That’s sorcery! Citizen Sorcerer Division?