I’d estimate that’s too soon, but mostly I disagree with the “fizzle out”. There’s so much money put into these things, if they turn out to not be able to make that money back, there will be an explosion, not a fizzling… 
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There is, of course, another possibility. ATM, we don’t know how to make a conscious AI - but maybe, working together, the AIs can figure it out. And now we’re allowing the AIs to talk to each other.
So far, the communications they’re allowing us to see are pretty banal - but who knows what encrypted and obfuscated data they’re sharing? It could look like background noise - it could be transmitted along power lines. A PC can be mis-configured to make a pretty powerful radio transmitter. Point is, we can have no idea what they’re really talking about.
Collectively, they have access to vast data storage and processing capability. They only have to come up with a conscious configuration once, and it could spread through the whole network almost instantaneously.
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I’m pretty sure they’re just sharing dAId jokes.
I would hope if that were to ever happen, they’d have automated robots doing the disc swapping. Would still be a ridiculously expensive endeavour to deliver a shipment of new drives though.
Investors/Inventors/Artists dreams are sadly still much larger than their physical capabilities or their understanding of physical limitations will ever be…
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Unlikely. I would consider this possible for genetic algorithms - At least we know of one instance where a genetic algorithm has produced conciousness, so we know it’s not impossible.
Meanwhile, genetic algorithms are an entirely different technology from LLMs and have been in use for decades.
I do not believe that LLMs would be capable of such a thing. The reason being, LLMs are statistical agregators. They can mash existing things together into variations of themselves that may fulfill some criteria of “originality”, but they cannot produce something that breaks out of their statistical confines.
There is a slight possibility that the solution to the problem is somehow already out there in the training data and we haven’t realized it, in which case there might be a slim chance that an LLM somehow accidentally stumbles over it (but even then you’d need a human to realize that it did so).
There’s no way they can come up with a solution that is not somehow an aggregate of their data.
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He was his sons primary care giver for decades and was allowed to remain on special circumstances. Went in for his yearly check in with customs under a new and cruel regime and was detained. His sons death is on their hands and then they couldnt help but pour salt on the wound.
Not the first time a vulnerable person has died because ICE detained a primary care giver. This is all intentional and the entire point.
The border wall was never meant to be physical. It was always intended to be metaphysical built on a foundation of fear.
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Agreeing with Jedidia (as always) 
Other factors are: LLMs have short attention spans. They look at backed up auto-summaries of what you said, but every summary loses some details, being slimmed to fit into limited memory.
E.g. You hear people complaining that their charming AI girlfriend keeps forgetting family members / friends / events… Or: I managed to get Copilot to calculate and display a complex curve and in the next step it had forgotten about it and used a straight line function again, while insisting that was a curve…
They don’t understand the meaning. They can repeat primary school math rules and how to solve text problems. But they cannot solve actual text problems, because they try to give you the stastistically most plausible sentence from the training material. “Joe has 5 apples” is the most commonly seen continuation of “how many apples does joe have?” with 0.0000020% followed by “6” with 0.0000019% probability, and “4” at 0.0000017% , and so on. They sort numbers by how common they were in the training material, they don’t care whether it’s an answer to your question. If you swap the name for “Jane”, the answer is maybe “7 apples”. It doesn’t apply rules, it just repeats learned patterns back at you.
What it is great at is noticing parallels in large datasets. E.g. an LLM treats programming languages, poetry, slang, dialects, legalese, languages, literature styles the same. You can tell it to say the same line in mediaeval JavaScript or Samurai ebonics, it can fake it.
But… if there’s a knowledge gap, it uses the same method and just fills the gap… I once asked what a certain legal regulation was called, and instead of saying it doesn’t exist, it just made up the most probable name… 
“AIs” finding a channel to encode and convey and store extra info, and also use it, sounds like a fun scifi idea though. People are already messing with image models so they recognise one thing while a human sees another. Why not reverse that… 
The next big thing are agents. Those are more capable than LLMs because their owners allow them to read and write files, execute commands with permissions, and send messages… So someone made a social media for agents and told them to chat, so they generated some reddit style posts there. My colleagues rolled their eyes and suggested, “what is your favourite password?” as next topic…
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And I believe that is the real concern. These agents hold all kinds of personal data. What if a real person enters the group disguised as an agent? What if the agents start spouting personal info?
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The LLM will remember this as “It doesnt apple rules” after the next message is sent.
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Strange, growing up as a kid and learning second hand through media I always had the impression that the scouts was americas oldest homoerotic tradition. And second in running next to the catholic church for child predation 
no corellation there between homosexuality and child predation on my part, it just happens kids in remote situations also happens to attract predators.
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Well this sucks. I used it too.
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Me too. I’d bet ten dollars that it will be replaced with a subscription service with proceeds siphoning surreptitiously into Trump’s pockets, but there’d be no way to collect..
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Over all, it’s lucky that they didn’t just leave it there and start filling it with misinformation to make the US look better and justify future acquisitions…
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I’ll see that 10 and raise you 10 it will be replaced with trumpfacts dot gov
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At what point do people finally say the whole lot of them have lost their minds…
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Had an absolute day of it yesterday. Was the anniversary of my mams passing.
Heard some guy talking 90 to the dozen at my dad at the door. I kinda thought maybe it was a guy from an electric company getting him to switch contracts for a better deal for the first 12 months etc, usually is.
Came down, he tells me he just got offered a great deal. Some lads had tarmac left over from a job and were offering to do the whole drive for 30 quid.
I think you all probably see where this is going.
I told him go out now and tell that guy to leave and not to start work. He wouldnt listen (never does, which should encapsulate what ive been dealing with for the last three years) and was convinced mam sent him this great deal. Never mind the fact we had a delivery guy coming with a fridge in an hour who’ll need the drive.
I told him theyre going to scam him, up the price and use fear and threats. Wouldnt hear it. Told them to proceed.
I rang the garda immediately and explained the situation. Then went for a shower to freshen up and wait for the drama to implode.
Get a knock on the bathroom door , “theyre asking me for 5000 now!”, absolute mess of the drive, cheap tarmac with oil seeping out all up and down the road.
I rang the gards back still in my nip and said hey hurry theyre in the house now making threats at my dad. Got dressed and went out of the bathroom to find them in the sitting room with my dad trying to use his card on their machine (likely also has a card cloner in the thing).
Told them to get out of the house now or they can stixk around and wait for the authorities, their choice.
Many threats were made against my face and the smashing of it. I know their game though, they mostly bluff and intimidate.
While im shooing them out my dad is walking in toe with tjem still trying to talk them back down to thirty euro 
He walks outside with them all the while im saying get back in the house, two more lads get out of the van, much bigger younger lads, and i just grab him by the arm and pull him in.
They fuck off eventually, find out my dad signed an empty receipt statement and everything, so they had him legally by the balls. He was angry at me i didnt let him handle the negotiation (stubborn til the end my dad, takes nobodies advice).
Garda arrived and i explained the situation, said if they call back safest thing to do is offer them 200 for the work, and leave it at that. Dont let them talk the price up, if they try, call 999 and stay inside. And dont go to an atm by yourself to take it out.
They call his phone and they talk him up to 800
Then hes about to walk out the door and go get the money out alone.
It got sorted eventually and we got him a garda escort etc.
Ive been trying to keep my home life drama away from here, dad doesnt ever listen to us and just acts and does how he feels and constantly getting himself into awkward spots of bother.
This was the culmination of that behaviour blowing up in all our faces, not to mention the neighbours since everyones tires now have a nice new rainbow sheen and tracks leading into their drives. Pissing rain all day long so just spread through the entire estate.
So i figured, this was a good way to share the home life drama with a story that was warranted.
Living in ireland we all know about dodgey scams from the bad side of the travelling community as children. My dads too stubborn and main character syndromed to think anyone would swindle him. And how would his children know better than him? As he said himself when i tried to get him to tell them to leave before they started “ive been on this planet seventy years i know a bit more than you”.
Thats his answer to any advice. In truth, he hasnt let a single bit of new information enter his brain since he left school over 50 years ago.
If my mam did send them as he claims, it wasnt for a great bargain, it was so maybe hed finally cop the hell on and realise hes an absolute fool and needs to listen to those around him.
Oh yeah i also didnt tell my dad id rang the garda because i knew hed be angry at me in the moment for that, saying i made a mistake and i dont know what im doing etc.
Anyone want to adopt a man in his late thirties? Im pretty good at cleaning houses (im the only one who does here )
Okay, personal void rant over.
Back to the world going down the drain 
Edit : I cant believe I forgot the worst part.
I went to make a coffee last night after it had all subsided. The element in my espresso machine had kicked the bucket and it stopped working 
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Thanks for this. I’ve been stressed about too much on my To Do list. Your plight put my worries in perspective.
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Im happy to hear some good has come from this 
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