Elon Musk warns U.S. Governors of the A.I. threat

Indeed it does. But that is also a wonderful idea. Give it access to actual limited networking so it could grow rapidly, but contained. A much better test than treating it like a computer virus and putting full isolation protocol.

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lol, I must be reading a different thread.
This thread isn’t about stopping AI progress, but in all fairness the title is about the threat, so don’t be surprised if the topic is about that. It’s worth talking about, in fact, it is the responsible thing to do. I don’t think anyone here has even suggested stopping progress. That seems to be your fear. What are you afraid of?

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I find it merely unsettling that we would build something we could lose control of.
Build it right and it will be a beautiful thing. Do it carelessly or without restraint and it might have the ability to dominate or even destroy. Tech is already a part of human life in nearly every respect, its not too far a leap to see it become God-like in its presence in all we do.
I’ll welcome all tech as I always have. I’m much more happy to watch the tide come in than “hide my head in the sand”.
But when you go fishing in a boat, do you take the oars or do you simply hope the tide will be nice and bring you home?
A bit of common sense may prove to be more beneficial than cold logic or hopeful attitudes.
It’s not alien, it’s made by us. We however are careless and destructive and as history has shown, every empire crumbles. Why is it not conceivable that a world under AI rule could be a bad thing.
Religious glass box mentality comes from being unwilling to accept outside possibilities not by blindly forging ahead without considering and removing the risks.
I don’t think we are going to see car building robots break free of their factories and hop down the street ripping out flowers and overturning tricycles.
I do think that having a system that thinks for itself that could become an entity that is beyond human control is something to be very wary of.
Bring it into being with discipline and positivity and an underlying code of ethic to keep it “nice”.
But never entirely trust it…just in case.

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It’s just a bit of self-preserving common sense on our part… If the AI itself is that smart, it won’t take longer than any of us for it to realize our flaws. It will either decide to change us, or purge us. We might need to walk the path of transhumanity ourselves before being ready to stand in front of the god and look it in the eye. For our own good…

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Yes, I aggree, and I was only saying that if something went wrong. We shouldn’t hinder the AI until something comes up as a problem, but we should have safeguards in place in case something does.

It would be if we focus on AI tech alone. But if you incorporate Transhumanistic practice and theory, it becomes a lot less scary to me. And why be afraid to trust an AI. It should really be no different than trusting a human, especially if it achieves sentient thought?

What!? Humans are the most cunning, cruel, envious… You name it! Humans are not trust-worthy at all! The AI will find out… Or surpass us on those wonderful traits, even.

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Good point, and humans can be very untrustworthy. Otherwise we wouldn’t have any laws at all.

If you guys really were that distrustful of humans, you wouldn’t be in a group of them asking questions that help formulate and guide your moral thinking. Just a thought. Yes, some people are distrustful. There is a reason we universally dislike those people. It is not thr norm, it is the outlier.

We trust each other here because we all are collaborating to get to the same goal, and we are here to help with the ARG if we can,(right?). But if you met someone that you had nothing in common with, and had totally opposite ideals, you would not trust them as much. I would like distrust to be uncommon, but I don’t think that’s realistic, both trust and distrust have kept the human race alive.

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lolwut, are you asking for moral guidance?

I wouldn’t immediately distrust them either. Plus, this anology doesn’t make sense, since you have no clue if they would have the opposite ideals as you. You may find that AI completely shares your ideals. I hope the first ones don’t, or they would also be mistrustful.

Abstract questions on the morality of artificial intelligence are just that. Questions on morality. By taking part, you are forming and mending how you see the topic and internalizing new moral philosophies because of it.

Nope, sorry to disappoint. I haven’t changed my moral compass because of your comments. You don’t have to trust someone to get information from them, and you don’t have to blindly trust that information you receive either, especially if you don’t trust the individual, nevertheless buying and selling people’s info is very valuable for many purposes (some nefarious). I can keep shooting holes through these comments of yours but I don’t think this tangent is very relevant to the topic.

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It’s funny, humans are fascinated with making things they cannot control. Like artificial intelligence and more humans.

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I never said you did. But in a way, you have. You’ve hardened your point and entrenched the position in the face of someone who thinks differently than yourself. Don’t worry, I did it too. It’s one of many outcomes of these exercises. It is worrying to me that you couldn’t see the general nature of the statement, on the nature of moral discussion, and instead to take it personally like you think I haven’t realized you didn’t change your stance. Try to remember that some of these statements are for the interested readers and thinkers as much as they are for you.

Interesting thought.

Well it depends on what he AI does, are we trying to make a human computer, or more of a personal assistant? Depending on its objective it might not have to trust at all. Although it is an interesting point.

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I personally think sentience is inescapable. We want machines that can help with true complex thought and imagination. At least the one’s working in research. That requires true sentience.

Bro, I am one of those interested readers and thinkers, deal with it :sunglasses: