# My crackpot theory: as of now, it was always there

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**Created:** [June 11, 2017, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/my-crackpot-theory-as-of-now-it-was-always-there/286 "2017-06-11T03:16:59Z")\
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Perhaps the reason we can’t find past info of Echo and these other companies existence is that they’re coming from _an alternate reality_ in which they _always existed_, but now their present is bleeding into ours, without taking the past with it… It’s similar to how the Berenstain universe happened. We all rememebered it one way, then suddenly it was different—because it came from somewhere that it _was_ normal, and always was that way…

Perhaps this is how the Echo system works—it can mimic the voices of our loved ones by recording them live _in a reality where they’re still alive_—which means our alternate loved ones may be being held against their will…

But of course, this is only a “crackpot” theory… 😉

…so long as they’re watching us here, that is…

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**Author:** ![Dwarf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/dwarf/32/45_2.png) [@Dwarf](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Dwarf)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/my-crackpot-theory-as-of-now-it-was-always-there/286/2 "2017-06-11T08:41:58Z")

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This is an interesting theory. I had a similar idea to this, but it involved time travel instead of alternate realities.

It is an interesting idea because it gives way to so many possibilities.

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**Author:** ![jojo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/jojo/32/84_2.png) [@jojo](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/jojo)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/my-crackpot-theory-as-of-now-it-was-always-there/286/3 "2017-06-11T10:25:59Z")

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I live this idea and to take it even further - in another investigation a person of interest proposed this - Thing of reality like the gravity field. As you make wells in the field, things attract roll down, etc. Well what if reality is like that too. Basically the more something is “realized” (talked about, discussed, read, media consumed, viral message spread, meme’d, etc) the bigger the gravity well in reality… if it gets big enough, it is then found and how the well developed is based on how reality shapes. It kinda goes to the other types of theory mentioned here and can explain why something seems to come into existence and can even have a history before it. And, if we are looking at something like the concepts of Echos - well, you could have nothing and then have a huge chain reaction (didn’t someone mention finding something about Markov Chains) and boom, we’ve got full realization - we were not ready for this yet because we had not built the critical mass to ignite (just like in the life of a star) - this could be why Sophie and Elizabeth were tracking the footprint - to see if a critical point could be reached and then use that (who knows, maybe echos link to some form of energy or such). I mean if echos are dealing with quantum alteration - we could be driving towards a self-referential plane of existence - which could be why Elizabeth is asking for help, once a reaction is started, it might be hard to stop (to the other theory is attracting something not wanted).

Here’s the theory as written for the other investigation - but it does have meta connected merit in other places : )

> **[EAW: The Gravity of Narrative](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-DALZOiDFzmjTSLM8eNiA-7VsSRcCBrxhPsEl7kIKiA/mobilebasic?forcehl=1&hl=en)**
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> This Doc is private

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/my-crackpot-theory-as-of-now-it-was-always-there/286/4 "2025-08-21T13:08:36Z")

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