# Light No Fire

**URL:** <https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154>\
**Category:** Light No Fire - Pre-release discussion\
**Created:** [December 8, 2023, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154 "2023-12-08T03:34:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MacForADay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/macforaday/32/15055_2.png) [@MacForADay](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/MacForADay)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/141 "2023-12-16T14:27:26Z")

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That scene is basically a meme now. Crypto communities overlay it with crypto prices going up

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**Author:** ![AdaRynin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/adarynin/32/30535_2.png) [@AdaRynin](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/AdaRynin)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/142 "2023-12-16T16:40:06Z")

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> [@jedidia](#):
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> s that a video clip for a song, or is that from a movie? Because if it’s the second, it’s one of the most awesome musical numbers I ever saw, and I need to know what movie it’s from…

And isn’t the first 10 seconds of the clip an Indian parody of the Pirates Of The Caribbean theme?

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/143 "2023-12-16T19:34:53Z")

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Anyone checked into this

> <https://twitter.com/PeacefulGamer/status/1736106122052812835?t=zYW4Xtg7aeerwFU0SkVG6A&s=19>
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> Legacy Zero @TheLZtweets

I don’t see a connection

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**Author:** ![ThatBomberBoi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/thatbomberboi/32/41691_2.png) [@ThatBomberBoi](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/ThatBomberBoi)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/144 "2023-12-16T19:43:40Z")

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Its a much older “Continuous” ARG that Alice & Smith have been running for a while. The only weird thing is that the account’s started following me and other NMS Twitter accounts. Might just be to promote it though.

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**Author:** ![MacForADay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/macforaday/32/15055_2.png) [@MacForADay](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/MacForADay)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/145 "2023-12-16T20:49:37Z")

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Yeah, The Black Watchmen already existed before the Waking Titan ARG, so it can’t be related, unless A & S change their lore to involve other fanbases

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**Author:** ![MacForADay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/macforaday/32/15055_2.png) [@MacForADay](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/MacForADay)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/146 "2023-12-16T21:08:33Z")

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It seems like the team only lets Sean out of the dev closet a few weeks each year and he goes nuts posting all kinds of random nonsense that’s been pent up. Also, this is making some people think LNF will have fishing:

> <https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/1736042652091502751>
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> KAMI @Okami13\_

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/147 "2023-12-16T21:15:37Z")

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I think he finally realized the bad times of the past are gone and he is feeling the relief and freedom of being able to be himself again.  
The number of watches on LNF and the good reception at the Game Awards has him riding high. I am so happy for all of them

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**Author:** ![MacForADay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/macforaday/32/15055_2.png) [@MacForADay](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/MacForADay)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/148 "2023-12-16T21:18:24Z")

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One way I see the good ole’ bad days coming back is if they decide to do a console exclusive, that would make a large part of the fanbase go ballistic. I don’t think they would make that mistake, but the PS exclusive NMS had for a year and The Last Campfire’s Epic Games store exclusive worries me.

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/149 "2023-12-16T21:27:21Z")

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The trailer song.  
Hunger of the Pine  
Light No Fire  
Is there a connection? 🤣  
!!BEWARE!! this vid is tough to watch

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/b/6/b6f5a8e5dc771817477ea06512b304303143158e.jpeg "alt-J - Hunger Of The Pine (Official Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCCXq9QB-dQ)

This one is easy to watch

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/e/6/e6e22833c85d20729d67d79328933b3e350293b2.jpeg "Light No Fire Official Reveal Trailer Song: "Hunger Of The Pine" by alt-J") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuenXQi7A0w)

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**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/150 "2023-12-16T22:12:34Z")

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> [@sheralmyst](#):
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> !!BEWARE!! this vid is tough to watch

I’m sorry, it was so ridiculously OTT it had me laughing out loud. Worthy of Monty Python.

Watching the guy running around like an arrow pincushion, the lyrics kept changing in my head from “hunger of the pine” to “hunger porcupine”.

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/151 "2023-12-16T22:13:51Z")

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We each deal with things in different ways. 😄 I am so happy for you.

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**Author:** ![Jupiter.blues](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/jupiter.blues/32/8450_2.png) [@Jupiter.blues](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Jupiter.blues)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/152 "2023-12-16T23:59:45Z")

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That music video is very fitting to HGs position after NMS’ launch. They took several hits from the internet and gaming world. All the shots were essentially fatal career enting shots… and they kept standing tall and running. And now, at the game award, SM basically threw gasoline all over himself, like “bring it on, I can take it”.

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/153 "2023-12-17T00:01:02Z")

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And again with the fire…maybe why they chose this song?

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/154 "2023-12-17T01:04:23Z")

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Ah! That would explain the title!

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**Author:** ![MacForADay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/macforaday/32/15055_2.png) [@MacForADay](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/MacForADay)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/155 "2023-12-17T02:50:15Z")

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Both have archery in them, so probably connected and why they chose the song, yes

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/156 "2023-12-17T10:19:30Z")

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Well, the black watchmen are now following me too. 👀  
They were already following many other NMS players. On X

 ![1000002654](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/4/9/49a9e96e19b68bb52f91ba4b3a084657bb33d530.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/157 "2023-12-17T12:05:12Z")

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The keyboard player with Alt-J, Gus Unger-Hamilton, has said that the meaning of “Hunger of the Pine” is that the pain of missing someone (pining) is like hunger.

I was quite taken by the poetic comparison of bodily and emotional needs. So much so, that I plan a follow up. I can’t quite decide between “Separation Constipation” and “My Baby Left Me, So I Got A Big Mac”.

> **[Hunger of the Pine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_of_the_Pine)**
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> "Hunger of the Pine" is a song by English indie rock band alt-J. It was released as the lead single from the band's second studio album This Is All Yours on 19 June 2014.
> "Hunger of the Pine" was one of several songs written by Alt-J following bassist Gwil Sainsbury's departure from the band in January 2014. It samples the words "I'm a female rebel" from American recording artist Miley Cyrus's 2013 song "4x4". Thom Green, the band's drummer, had produced a remix of "4x4" for Cyrus, and incorpora...

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/158 "2023-12-17T14:09:17Z")

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Hmmm, I personally can’t tell if anything changed, as I was already being watched … lol

I do know this though:

ARG Discord (A&S) - The Black Watchmen - posted on December 11th, 2023

> Agents! We’ve done a major overhaul to TBW S1, S2, Mother Russia and AITDW to bring the game up to date. We’ve fixed issues in over 15 missions, moved puzzles to newer websites (RIP encipher.it) and updated the whole game to the Unity 2023 engine to provide faster load times, new video settings, Mac OS compatibility and more.
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> Before we make a full announcement on Steam, we need your help to test the changes! All content on NT4, Ahnayro and TBW should now be up to date and working correctly. If you find any issues in the games, please let us know in the ⁠technical-support channel. Thanks!
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> Oh, and stay tuned for something special!

Also found this Tweet that may be related to what is happening over at A&S:

> <https://twitter.com/aliceandsmith/status/1736076319736177107>

And Twitch current live stream:  
https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=anashel&parent=forums.atlas-65.com&autoplay=false

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/159 "2023-12-17T14:17:22Z")

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[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/5/0/5088e70f474689a9c981d28fbb628822894f5389.jpeg "What Nobody Says about the Light No Fire trailer - #lightnofire #nomanssky #starfield") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY-i8QrYpeM)

Not clickbait, does point out things I haven’t seen people point out, like that janky horse tail XD

Alt J were one of those bands for me that held so much promise on their first album and then just fell apart with each subsequent release.

Hunger of the Pine is an easy watch compared to their video for Breezeblocks (reversed footage of domestic violence). I was very happy that 65DOS went on to do the full OST for NMS but I dunno if I want the same happening with Alt J. Just get 65dos again XD Get them to invest in pan flutes and a herdy gerdy…

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/7/3/737f80e3898dbf0dec31cca94ad545bd729ed11d.jpeg "65daysofstatic - Silent Running [Full Album + Bonus Tracks]") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKkwWs0REhQ)

I’ve posted this many times here, but while on the subject of 65DOS and OST’s, I thought I’d flaunt it here again.

They did select shows of a live scoring for Silent Running back in the day, always got the impression they were playing a crap load of Portal 2 when they scored this from the intro track '^ \_^ Always revisit it (though I wish I could own a physical copy \</3 )

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**Author:** ![jedidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/jedidia/32/1237_2.png) [@jedidia](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/jedidia)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/light-no-fire/8154/160 "2023-12-17T18:23:39Z")

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> [@toddumptious](#):
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> a herdy gerdy…

That’s not how you spell that at all… 😬

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