# Games and Game-Related old and new

**URL:** <https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 24, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294 "2019-02-24T00:24:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1712 "2025-05-14T14:25:25Z")

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Indeed. Edward Bulwer Lytton famously said “The pen is mightier than the sword” - from which, we can confidently infer that he had never actually tried to fight someone armed with a sword. Particularly not when he was armed with a pen.

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1713 "2025-05-14T14:48:36Z")

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Ayleid Ruins. Filled with little glowing Welkynd stones, lovely for lighting up drab houses

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**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1714 "2025-05-14T18:39:56Z")

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At level 17, the best I’m seeing is elven armour and weapons, and journeyman alchemy gear. Looks like I’ll have to go to level 20.

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**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1715 "2025-05-15T10:10:35Z")

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An Oblivion observation:

There are shops in the game. They keep shop hours, roughly 9am to 5 pm. Outside of these hours, the shops are closed, and the proprietors will not sell or buy any goods. So far, so obvious.

There are other people in the game who buy and sell things. Chapel healers, Mages Guild spell vendors, Fighters Guild arms dealers, and a variety of others.

The thing that’s not obvious is that the game treats some of these people as shops, even though they don’t have a shop. The game won’t tell you. So you can visit your local Mages Guild, and find that people have nothing to sell. Bartering is not even an option in the conversation - and you can think “Oh well, there’s nothing to buy here”. But it could be that you’re just there at the wrong time of day. Instead of visiting at 8.00 pm, try visiting at 10.00 am, and you could find that person is willing to trade.

It’s infuriating because it doesn’t seem to affect all traders. Some people are always willing to do a deal, even if you get them out of bed at three in the morning. Others will only trade during shop hours.

The only way I’ve found to tell if someone is a viable trader is to get your mercantile skill high enough - them, even if they’re not currently trading, your conversation contains the option “invest in this shop”.

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1716 "2025-05-15T10:30:45Z")

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1800 is the highest I have been able to push the investment. Some weapons are now worth over 2000.  
I have not devoted a lot of time to this yet. Currently, I am running the Knights of the Nine quest. I think I will work next on finding the best place to invest.  
Edit 2000 is the limit on ships so far…

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1717 "2025-05-16T00:49:46Z")

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The New Nine (one is in the basement)

 ![1000001409](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/7/1/717938566bbf2a5381e83029e14d065a00358ddd.jpeg)  
And all survived  
 ![1000001411](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/5/1/51fd82b7347585aa59fa6a729951827a5eb42e2e.jpeg)  
The Nine Who Came Before  
 ![1000001413](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/7/4/740fd643287cdf7d2dd05bb3f250f5b7f7b6f880.jpeg)  
Captain of the Nine  
 ![1000001412](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/0/c/0cb2ea8172c16c258ab0292806ad459ef8213e7a.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1718 "2025-05-16T13:53:24Z")

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She got up early to practice. Everyone who woke up later found they had no uniforms…

 ![1000001418](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/8/2/8262354f6160dd5807f464c50c51c9d1b83098dc.jpeg)  
 ![1000001417](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/3/8/3859b67b62307cbcf97bcd313f9cf7bf2b2676ee.jpeg)

Even the deceased are not safe…

 ![1000001420](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/e/f/ef5aba0579f589196fbec2d338edd946342a34be.jpeg)

> <https://x.com/TESRSkyblivion/status/1923793664112726161?t=S2HYunHJRokaPssZZpISLg&s=19>

 ![1000001432](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/4/4/44b42498d6ee57d286f32e29c7a018e9d957620b.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1719 "2025-05-19T18:04:47Z")

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Finally managed to close the Kvatch gate properly, and without obvious glitches.

 ![sigil2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/2/c/2c873e537dc39d86f5fc8e559605471a529b085f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1720 "2025-05-20T01:32:17Z")

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Good to hear!  
I am working on special armor sets and forcing them onto shelves

 ![1000001482](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/8/1/81e74072e25dd9879ee1665d959484cb360aae60.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1721 "2025-05-20T22:46:34Z")

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Speaking of armour sets, here’s Polyphemus the Magnificent, Heroic Murderer of a Thousand Mudcrabs.

 ![magnificent](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/f/b/fb48f1af374a1f1a3d357923e90c805581762ee5.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1722 "2025-05-21T10:50:27Z")

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If you are carrying garlic and you use a flame spell to kill crabs, it should render up some tasty crab cakes…but I am always disappointed to see just a few crab legs instead.  
Oh and I lost Jauffre…I hope that won’t be a problem

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2025, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1723 "2025-05-21T23:27:02Z")

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I have enjoyed early access of this game. Excited for full release. There will be physical editions for PS5 and Switch

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/d/0/d0efcdab235596d35cddb31efe37a79390cc8078.jpeg "The Wandering Village 1.0 Launch Date, PlayStation and Physical Edition Reveal") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHhS3DIHg-I)

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**Author:** ![LordMarkov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/lordmarkov/32/3134_2.png) [@LordMarkov](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/LordMarkov)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1724 "2025-05-22T14:25:21Z")

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This game has a Studio Ghibli vibe. I’ll definitely check it out. Thank you for the heads up.

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1725 "2025-05-22T14:48:33Z")

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Jump into early access and get it cheaper. Price will increase at launch

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**Author:** ![Argh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/argh/32/2328_2.png) [@Argh](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Argh)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2025, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1726 "2025-05-22T14:55:05Z")

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Yeah, the illustrations are straight up “Nausicaä”

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**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1727 "2025-05-23T00:12:55Z")

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For Malacath’s quest, I had to free the enslaved ogres from Bleak Mine.

I decided to use sneak and invisibility, so I didn’t have to kill any of the guards. I unlocked the slave cages, the ogres ran out, and attacked the guards anyway.

When it was all over, all the ogres were dead, and four guards had survived. I sneaked invisibly out, fast travelled back to Malacath, claimed my reward, and the quest completed.

I then discovered that the four surviving mine guards were following me everywhere I went. They would threaten me, but they wouldn’t attack - so I couldn’t kill them without committing murder. Everywhere I went, they would eventually turn up, and follow me.

Eventually I found that if I went and stood outside the Imperial Prison, the guards there would attack them – which they did, and killed them.

It seems that some other people who’ve experienced this bug found that even this didn’t stop them - that even after being killed, they would still turn up, following you,

I will wait and see…

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1728 "2025-05-23T02:18:09Z")

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Notching 4 arrows now…

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**Author:** ![toddumptious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/toddumptious/32/58816_2.png) [@toddumptious](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/toddumptious)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1729 "2025-05-23T20:41:55Z")

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So many times I almost jumped on this one but then kept convincing myself to wait because I had a handful of early access games already in rotation (some of those still are in ea! '^ \_^ )

Look forward to finally gettin to try it out, but 2025 has already presented a pile of games I’m gonna have to work through first. If I even can between all these NMS updates etc.

I’ve made it through most of 2025 without buying a single new game ;0; Probably due in part to me somehow having less money at the end of each week after expenses… Must be all that global economic uncertainty due to… things… I keep hearing about 😉

Gaming Piracy might be coming back in vogue like it did during the last recession if this continues 🤣

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**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1730 "2025-05-24T09:43:03Z")

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I finally got around to messing about with Oblivion’s wrist irons - which were mentioned in an earlier post.

In the remastered version, they’re treated as hand-wear, like bracers or gauntlets. If you wear gauntlets, the wrist irons are automatically removed, and vice versa. You can’t wear both.

The wrist irons can be enchanted, but so can gauntlets. I don’t really see any great advantage to using them - gauntlets grant an armour buff, but wrist irons don’t.

The only possible benefit I can see is that wrist irons are zero-weight.

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1731 "2025-05-24T18:02:55Z")

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They are supposed to be indestructible and can be enchanted

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