# Games and Game-Related old and new

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 24, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294 "2019-02-24T00:24:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1652 "2025-04-25T23:55:41Z")

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This is an alchemist’s shop - and the incompetent owner has blown it to bits. It’s not part of a story - it’s just scenery by the roadside. It’s a good example of the humour and attention to detail that Bethesda used to put into their games - something that was notably lacking in, for instance, Starfield.

 ![alchemist](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/1/6/16eb199a374c84444bf55a2fed100669d52c3887.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1653 "2025-04-26T02:42:16Z")

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I saw that as I was on a quest and wanted a story. 😆 What were they doing?  
I don’t remember seeing it before. Did I miss it in the original?

Hey! I want my arrow back! And stop stepping in front of me.

 ![1000001195](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/f/1/f1868c121a8f3049ab483769b2e0c43277d0b925.jpeg)

So many nice touches in this remaster. I was hunting bandits as a storm cleared and the sun peeked out from behind the clouds

 ![1000001196](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/2/2/2242ca92d1f09be1f5ce4eabc69437863171fa04.jpeg)  
Must go touch it  
 ![1000001193](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/5/9/59ff2245f67f54a190e41103b19a0e2c33a5a6fc.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![jedidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/jedidia/32/1237_2.png) [@jedidia](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/jedidia)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1654 "2025-04-26T07:34:51Z")

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> [@Polyphemus](#):
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> This is an alchemist’s shop - and the incompetent owner has blown it to bits.

That almost qualifies as a discworld reference 🤣

> [@sheralmyst](#):
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> Hey! I want my arrow back! And stop stepping in front of me.

At least it isn’t stuck in the knee, I guess?

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**Author:** ![toddumptious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/toddumptious/32/58816_2.png) [@toddumptious](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/toddumptious)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1655 "2025-04-26T18:24:05Z")

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I pictured this as an Orc on a town square soapbox giving a public demonstration

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1656 "2025-04-26T19:45:39Z")

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[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/0/1/011a9ea06fb5adee2a7f97765b6733a28551a9ab.jpeg "Oblivion NPC Dialogues in The Lord Of The Rings") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qzGLw_2Baw)

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**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1657 "2025-04-26T23:43:27Z")

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My new house in Anvil. Not a staightforward transaction - it was cheap, but I had to shift ghosts and a master necromancer.

 ![newhouse1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/c/7/c7307f05ce3d36e1ae0ab2fa4fdf64eec5ca6dc7.jpeg)

The previous owner - now dead forthe second time.

 ![newhouse2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/a/5/a5acec1acce7e365a4bd9d143186a7377bf42627.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1658 "2025-04-30T16:14:20Z")

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![1000001249](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/f/d/fdbdfa79380f0907d2076229c3334c9ee812eb8b.jpeg)  
No matter what I do, I just cannot drop this bottle of Cyrodilic Brandy.

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**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1659 "2025-04-30T23:50:10Z")

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> [@sheralmyst](#):
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> I just cannot drop this bottle of Cyrodilic Brandy.

Ah, I’ve had days like that, too.

“I knew I’d had enough to drink, because there was none left”.  
_Spike Milligan_

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1660 "2025-04-30T23:59:14Z")

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you have no idea how appropriate this is right now. everything is going wrong

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**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2025, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1661 "2025-05-01T09:11:42Z")

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Now enrolled in the Arcane University.

Student lectures

 ![university](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/4/1/41b62e459de6bdd3a15db65ed5f9e7202da2769e.jpeg)

University Departments

 ![university2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/b/a/ba138d2a6a810e9b86cd38a4f6c7f95850b6bec3.jpeg)

My new home - Wizard’s Tower, high in the Jeral Mountains

 ![Wizards Tower 1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/3/1/314342e722261b4c16e6082f10e4b753c7350c5d.jpeg)

Wizard’s Tower - Enchanting, Spellmaking, and Atronach Summoning altars.

 ![Wizards Tower 2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/8/c/8c6f6be91df46b8fc571d7c5c8791520bc79d90c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2025, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1662 "2025-05-01T22:45:50Z")

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I can’t remember, is there a highest point in Oblivion like there is in Skyrim? It might be the Mages Tower or Cloud Ruler Temple…

 ![1000001268](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/b/8/b84eeb23b55d8dca154bd350e170c5fc4c1540f5.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![toddumptious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/toddumptious/32/58816_2.png) [@toddumptious](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/toddumptious)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2025, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1663 "2025-05-02T00:09:42Z")

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I’m actually surprised Elon Musk hasn’t demanded Space X launch pads resemble the Imperial City of Cyrodil to increase his gamer cred

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2025, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1664 "2025-05-02T00:19:46Z")

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Well you just _had_ to say that out loud… 😂

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**Author:** ![jedidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/jedidia/32/1237_2.png) [@jedidia](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/jedidia)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2025, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1665 "2025-05-02T05:50:00Z")

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> [@sheralmyst](#):
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> I can’t remember, is there a highest point in Oblivion like there is in Skyrim?

As a Daggerfall / Morrowind player, I keep forgetting that flying’s been banned from later parts of the series… 😆

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**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1666 "2025-05-04T00:45:55Z")

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I don’t need the Wizard’s Tower any more. I just got promoted to Arch-Mage of the Mages Guild - the job comes with a very pleasant apartment.

 ![archmage1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/2/a/2a5781337b583b49081ba2a2b6d96e1afcda2196.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1667 "2025-05-04T06:02:07Z")

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Good for you!  
I bought a house in Cheydinhal. Was so tired, I fell asleep on the dusty old bed that came with the place. Then someone paid me a visit during the night and gave me a love bite on the neck. So instead of making a quick trip to pick up a lovey painting in Chorral, I was instead, running like the wind in the dead of night. Sneaking up on trolls, filling Minotaurs full of arrows, trying not to fall to my death on steep mountainsides, all to reach an old shack on a hill where a woman with a cure waited to tell me she needed 5 empty Grand Soul Gems first.  
I waited til dark to race back to Anvil only to realize I had a grand total of one.  
Yes, you can buy them at the Mage’s Guilds. I managed to buy 1 before the love bite took ahold and trying to conduct business sent people screaming, “Get away from me! You’re not getting any of my blood!”  
This meant raiding the Mage’s Guilds instead. When I had exhausted that source, I had to clean out a couple of caves near the witch’s home and then finally, in the ultimate test of my sneaking skills, I broke into her basement while her back was turned and lifted the final one from the hag herself…  
It was exhausting.  
The only positive; I got to see a lot of lovely flickering lighting affects.

 ![1000001297](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/3/8/38a58768793efc6fee80261a24a0f0152041e778.jpeg)  
I also have a ton of loot waiting to be gathered and sold. Raiding 2 caves while no one will do business with you, means stashing it all away for later. So now I basically am doing in the game, what I have been doing for the last 4 days in RL…sorting and selling.  
…and I forgot the bit about having to stab an Argonian then fleeing for my life, but that is a tale for another day…

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**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1668 "2025-05-04T08:33:18Z")

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I’ve been infected with the vampire bug 5 or 6 times now - but it’s always been after fighting with vampires - so it was obvious I needed to check, and then neck a “cure disease” potion (although you don’t actually need a potion - eating mandrake will do the job).

I vaguely remember from 20 years ago that in Oblivion, allowing the infection to progress to vampirism was a PITA, and very difficult to cure. I’m trying to avoid it.

(edit) I hardly bother selling loot any more - unless it’s very rare, very powerful, or very expensive, I don’t even bother to collect it from dead enemies. I’ve mastered alchemy, and it’s a lot easier to make and sell a bunch of potions. One quick circuit of Imperial City, collecting all the Fly Amanita mushrooms you see, will net you 10,000 gold worth of potions - and selling them will quickly max out your mercantile skill.

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1669 "2025-05-04T18:34:44Z")

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In all the cleaning out, I found my guide. Evidence I played the heck out of this game the first time around. And I am enjoying it maybe even more now than I did then

 ![1000001302](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/2/5/2537d32ac1588b2b6fc705e659b9d808f1de147a.jpeg)  
Sunset over Anvil  
 ![1000001303](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/c/e/ce03fb782440bc8cc1d39a71c74a2c813bfb22b6.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1670 "2025-05-05T23:36:44Z")

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Regarding the highest point in Cyrodil:

I managed to climb a mountain higher than Wizard’s Tower - you can see it looks down on Frostcrag Spire

 ![high point 2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/7/e/7ed7dae196ea06f537e4fa1050ad4c152b24931b.jpeg)

There is another, even higher mountain to the North - but it’s not accessible from the Cyrodil map. It’s in Skyrim. It looks very much like the Throat of the World, where the Greybeards live.

 ![high point 1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/7/9/79e7fba367640f1ad925f9ec9e044a805bc761ca.jpeg)

 ![high point 4](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/f/a/fa606f0b18319e48b994ad7be7e3b1ac06f88e12.jpeg)

Interesting that even when they were designing Oblivion, Bethesda already had Skyrim mapped out.

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**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1671 "2025-05-06T08:51:51Z")

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Finally made my way into the Mage’s Guild (I am easily sidetracked)

 ![1000001328](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/c/8/c8f4d1fb8449ea5493b5174d16a76d03971b0fc6.jpeg)  
It is electrifying.  
The stars fell into this pool of water  
 ![1000001331](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/e/2/e2e8eff6ebfea0ff4d16bab40d975b2bdca89ecf.jpeg)  
And the reworked Oblivion gates are still impressive and scary.  
 ![1000001330](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/8/4/84d071088629cd5933fbeebeafbdac6fba813a82.jpeg)

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