# Games and Game-Related old and new **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 24, 2019, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294 "2019-02-24T00:24:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 81
**Author:** ![jedidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/jedidia/32/1237_2.png) [@jedidia](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/jedidia)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1612 "2025-04-20T17:07:38Z")
> [@Jupiter.blues](#): > > I think its safe to assume that A.I. wont be taking over that many human jobs any time soon This is the sane conclusion looking at the current state of AI. My biggest fear is that many human jobs will be replaced with AI anyways due to the tremenduous profits that promises. And then, of course, things will start to _really_ go wrong. ---
**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1613 "2025-04-20T21:02:29Z")
![1000001120](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/c/f/cf2cd8c0d66985408073afb2f6c2afdbe8995fd8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![jedidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/jedidia/32/1237_2.png) [@jedidia](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/jedidia)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1614 "2025-04-21T07:36:08Z")
That is, I am afraid, an apt depiction of software in general… 😅 Like, if you look at the ridiculous complexity behind something like remote controlled lighting in your room as opposed to a good old wall-switch, this image isn’t nearly convoluted enough… ---
**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1615 "2025-04-21T07:51:49Z")
What I like about Rube Goldburg is he drew complex solutions to non-existent problems. Who needs a self-operating napkin? Who needs AI to run your online searches? It worked just fine without it. ---
**Author:** ![jedidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/jedidia/32/1237_2.png) [@jedidia](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/jedidia)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1616 "2025-04-21T08:04:35Z")
> [@sheralmyst](#): > > What I like about Rube Goldburg is he drew complex solutions to non-existent problems Again, a very apt description of many areas of software… 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1617 "2025-04-21T17:18:30Z")
My spies tell me the Oblivion remake is due to launch tomorrow. (edit) Correction - official announcement tomorrow. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/3/a/3ac7450481f3a96a0f2a0b71fbb496738e259b77.jpeg "All will be revealed....") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed_E2crglcw) ---
**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1618 "2025-04-21T21:27:38Z")
I keep hearing it could drop any time. Maybe even at the end of the announcement. I have seen side by side comparisons. Can’t wait…but have no choice The thing is already buffering with over 8k waiting… 😅 Can’t link to it from here. Also weird. Dang it…I have to take my daughter somewhere in the morning… ---
**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1619 "2025-04-21T21:57:15Z")
> [@sheralmyst](#): > > The thing is already buffering Well I own Oblivion on Steam - but I’m not seeing any activity in that area. Is this thing a free update for existing owners, or do we have to buy it again? If we have to buy it again, I don’t understand how it can be buffering - AFAIK, the update doesn’t exist as a store item yet. (edit) Moment of clarity - it’s the YouTube video that’s buffering. Apologies. My question about the game remains, though. Do we have to buy it again? ---
**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1620 "2025-04-21T23:03:22Z")
Thank you for unconfusing me 😂 I have no idea on payment but was wondering the same thing… Edit; it has been so long, I had to look and see. Then I remembered. I played Oblivion from a disc. Had a boxed set of all of the Elder Scroll games. It is gone…I suspect someone took it when they moved out sooooo…I will have to buy it regardless. ---
**Author:** ![jedidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/jedidia/32/1237_2.png) [@jedidia](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/jedidia)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1621 "2025-04-22T06:01:34Z")
> [@Polyphemus](#): > > My question about the game remains, though. Do we have to buy it again? Can’t say for sure, but remakes are usually completely new releases. ---
**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1622 "2025-04-22T07:44:31Z")
> [@jedidia](#): > > remakes are usually completely new releases. Bethesda have a history of updated and improved releases - Game of the Year editions, Ultimate editions, and the like. In the past, these have often been free for customers who already owned the original game and all significant DLC. Even when the updates weren’t free, existing customers were able to buy the update at a much reduced price. Granted, this hasn’t always been the case, and, as you point out, the new version of Oblivion is not so much an update as a total remake. Still, with their low-key approach to the marketing of this release, I wonder what their pricing strategy will be. All the above is idle speculation, of course. We’ll find out the facts later today. ---
**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1623 "2025-04-22T14:03:14Z")
The YouTube post for Oblivion (5 or 6 posts back) is now showing a 60 minute countdown until it activates. ---
**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1624 "2025-04-22T15:31:10Z")
Oh wow. Downloading 115 Gigabytes. Original Oblivion install, with all the DLC, was just over 5 Gigabytes. ---
**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1625 "2025-04-22T17:17:08Z")
Finally home and I just watched the trailer and I am so in! Almost 125 GB from scratch…gotta wait some more To avoid complications of running Linux, I opted for Xbox. Not sure how it compares but here I am. Going in. ![1000001140](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/5/f/5f5f3fbb405fb1a10fddc7e0089c95cbc6e6be02.jpeg) ![1000001151](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/1/9/19d24d3bf8a867c96e6a5205446c1e4665b0c7e3.jpeg) ![1000001143](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/8/8/8820d9839cdfe02168a8d8813874cabccf48e1d8.jpeg) ![1000001142](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/4/1/41f1079d8a933640cabee5b3d2285e4768f8388a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1626 "2025-04-22T21:42:14Z")
In many ways it’s like it was 20 years ago - only more so. The music is still beutiful and evocative. The architecture is still stunning. The exterior landscape scenery is now drop-dead gorgeous. Player actions are less clunky and more fluid, combat is more intuitive. Just as i did 20 years ago, I’m now going to ignore the main quest, and wander off exploring. I could dip in and out of this game for years. ![character](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/5/9/591ad08a1c2f3c0437bec272dfdeebbb5d9e116d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1627 "2025-04-22T22:09:40Z")
But the good ole Bethesda physics are still there. First skull I stepped on went ricocheting around the room 😂 There also seems to be a lot of wolves off the beaten paths Oh, and nirnroot is huge ---
**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1628 "2025-04-22T22:33:28Z")
One of the problems with Oblivion was that there was nowhere official to store your excess stuff early on in the game. Most containers respawn their content after a few hours, and anything left in them when they do is lost. In the Tamriel marketplace there are open grain sacks (_only_ the open ones!) that do not respawn, and can be safely used for goods storage until you buy a house. In the remake, storing stuff is a bit peculiar. On PC, you have to open the container, then press"F" to search. Counter-intuitive, but this brings up the inventory menu, with a “store” option. So far, I can’t guarantee that my stuff will survive - I don’t know how much of the game has changed -but that’s where I’ve put it. I will post tomorrow, confirming whether I still own the stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1629 "2025-04-22T23:12:13Z")
Another thing I remembered - crates, barrels and sacks left out in public places can be safely looted - the guards don’t mind. There are lots of them in Tamriel marketplace. You won’t make a fortune, but early on, gold is in short supply. The shop “The Copious Coinpurse” in Tamriel is a general dealer, and will buy just about anything. ---
**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1630 "2025-04-22T23:16:04Z")
Crates and sacks in the marketplace looted. Found a nice green dress. 😄 The Oblivion gates are rather scary now ![1000001144](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/b/0/b0c3ed3c14aac4782b2878ec9344b7650db9b359.jpeg) ![1000001145](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/3/c/3cd128d614616fc7b3044b6f0fc0903987e62e69.jpeg) ![1000001146](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/b/6/b62088581113e5ebfb6f421ffd6f2664f44502bd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294/1631 "2025-04-22T23:48:18Z")
Oh and don’t forget the Old Nag you can get for free right outside the Imperial City at the Chestnut Handy Stables ![1000001149](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/0/6/0655ecfbaffb50ec88eee4906a8f7ed0b9a32b73.jpeg) [Previous page](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294.md?page=80) [Next page](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/games-and-game-related-old-and-new/6294.md?page=82)