# Echo-64 Numbers

**URL:** <https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/echo-64-numbers/277>\
**Category:** WT Thoughts & Theories\
**Created:** [June 11, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/echo-64-numbers/277 "2017-06-11T00:10:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Maff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/maff/32/411_2.png) [@Maff](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Maff)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/echo-64-numbers/277/82 "2017-06-16T08:56:39Z")

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Well if we continue your sequence past the present and look at 2036 that will be the year that the Cosmic Call ([Cosmic Call - Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Call)) reaches its first destination in the Cassiopeia constellation (Greek mythology again, but maybe unrelated). The message includes the Arecibo Message that we earlier linked to 1974. There is also a link to the Rosetta Stone in the Wiki link but again maybe unrelated other than the discovery in 1799.

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**Author:** ![DevilinPixy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/devilinpixy/32/74073_2.png) [@DevilinPixy](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/DevilinPixy)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/echo-64-numbers/277/83 "2017-06-16T09:41:59Z")

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The ‘Rosetta Stone’ composed by Stephane Dumas and Yvan Dutil, which was sent as part of the Cosmic Call in 1999 and 2003, is quite different from the Rosetta Stone discovered in 1799. They used the name, because as a term, the Rosetta Stone represents a crucial key in the process of decryption of encoded information, especially when a small but representative sample is recognised as the clue to understanding a larger whole.  
The Rosetta Stone (Dumas / Dutil):

> **[messages.pdf](https://www.plover.com/misc/Dumas-Dutil/messages.pdf)**
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The Rosetta Stone discovered in 1799:

> **[Rosetta Stone](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Stone)**
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> The Rosetta Stone is a stele of granodiorite inscribed with three versions of a decree issued in Memphis, Egypt, in 196 BC during the Ptolemaic dynasty on behalf of King Ptolemy V Epiphanes. The top and middle texts are in Ancient Egyptian using hieroglyphic and Demotic scripts, respectively, while the bottom is in Ancient Greek. The decree has only minor differences between the three versions, making the Rosetta Stone key to deciphering the Egyptian scripts.
> The stone was carved during the H...

There may however be a relation. I looked into RGB, which may be hinted at on the echo-64 page with the ‘design by Rickley G. Brown’ at the bottom of each web page. You will find the following on the wiki:

> The RGB color model is based on the Young–Helmholtz theory of trichromatic color vision, developed by Thomas Young and Hermann Helmholtz in the early to mid nineteenth century, and on James Clerk Maxwell’s color triangle that elaborated that theory (circa 1860).

Then looking into Thomas Young on the wiki:

> He “made a number of original and insightful innovations”[1] in the decipherment of Egyptian hieroglyphs (specifically the Rosetta Stone) before Jean-François Champollion eventually expanded on his work.

So who knows, but it’s interesting to see ‘Rosetta Stone’ now mentioned by @Maff in relation to the Cosmic Call.

Links:

> **[RGB color model](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RGB_color_model)**
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> The RGB color model (UK spelling: RGB colour model) is an additive color model in which the red, green and blue primary colors of light are added together in various ways to reproduce a broad array of colors. The name of the model comes from the initials of the three additive primary colors, red, green, and blue.
> The main purpose of the RGB color model is for the sensing, representation, and display of images in electronic systems, such as televisions and computers, though it has also been use...

> **[Young–Helmholtz theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young%E2%80%93Helmholtz_theory)**
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> The Young–Helmholtz theory (based on the work of Thomas Young and Hermann von Helmholtz in the 19th century), also known as the trichromatic theory, is a theory of trichromatic color vision – the manner in which the visual system gives rise to the phenomenological experience of color. In 1802, Young postulated the existence of three types of photoreceptors (now known as cone cells) in the eye, with different but overlapping response to different wavelengths of visible light.
> Hermann von Helmhol...

> **[Thomas Young (scientist)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Young_(scientist))**
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> Thomas Young FRS (13 June 1773 – 10 May 1829) was a British polymath who made notable contributions to the fields of vision, light, solid mechanics, energy, physiology, language, musical harmony, and Egyptology. He was instrumental in the decipherment of Egyptian hieroglyphs, specifically the Rosetta Stone.
> Young has been described as "The Last Man Who Knew Everything". His work influenced that of William Herschel, Hermann von Helmholtz, James Clerk Maxwell, and Albert Einstein. Young is cred...

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**Author:** ![Maff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/maff/32/411_2.png) [@Maff](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Maff)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 10:35am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/echo-64-numbers/277/84 "2017-06-16T10:35:07Z")

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Nice find. It certainly seems to tie in.

On a side note the Arecibo Observatory being a radio telescope can image objects such as meteorites by bouncing radio signals off them, basically using echoes. Probably nothing but I thought it might be worth mentioning.

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**Author:** ![crushbrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/crushbrain/32/515_2.png) [@crushbrain](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/crushbrain)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/echo-64-numbers/277/85 "2017-06-16T11:34:08Z")

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So I’ve been thinking about the words I unlocked above. “That be the instrumental Lord… Bend hour.” And I have been thinking about the quote the echo-64 puzzle unlocked. “There is not either good or bad but thinking makes it so.” And there is definitely a correlation here.

What is the only way to bend an hour? Gravity. What is the instrumental lord but light? What is another word to describe nothing good or bad? Relativity.

All of these ideas deal with time dilation, space time, the fabric of our current reality. Echo-64 is trying to cheat the system through preservation of audio and complex mathematical patterns - ie the spoken word. The idea is to simulate the soul through speech. Sound waves in medium.

String theory teaches the universe is built on vibrating strings. A kind of cosmic voice. Atlas is an echo of reality, a simulation which preserves but also twists the past. It “bends the hour”, not by the laws of physics, but by the power of the patterns found within sound.

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So how does this help us unlock the next puzzle? lol I have no idea! I’m pulling my hair out here.

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**Author:** ![Shota](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/shota/32/584_2.png) [@Shota](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Shota)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/echo-64-numbers/277/86 "2017-06-16T12:39:50Z")

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This sir, gets full marks for creative thinking.

It could also be we’re missing a number and it’s something like “that be the instrumental lord to bend the hour” or something along those lines.  
Either way, I do really like how this ties hamlet to the numbers.

The unifying word might be “physics”, but that is not entirely helpful either. I tried putting it in the search box on the echo-64 site, but that yielded nothing.

Now indeed the echo project tries to break physics, but gravitational waves are not known to exceed light speed, and no amount of gravity can reverse time (just slow it), although the implication of fully stopped time would be the existence of everything at any time at once.

So for now I’m at a loss on how to use this either. Can’t think of much else than the search box or the sites urls ( [echo-64.com/gravity/](http://echo-64.com/gravity/) etc) but those do not seem to yield much to the words I tried so far.

Edit: to achieve what echo is doing one might consider worm holes or black holes or event horizons or anything along those lines in more speculative physics…

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**Author:** ![crushbrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/crushbrain/32/515_2.png) [@crushbrain](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/crushbrain)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/echo-64-numbers/277/87 "2017-06-19T02:53:32Z")

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Rickley G Brown… RGB for brown is 165, 42, 42 or #A52A2A.

84.190.188 offset brown is 249, 232, 230 or #F9E8E6

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**Author:** ![DevilinPixy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/devilinpixy/32/74073_2.png) [@DevilinPixy](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/DevilinPixy)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/echo-64-numbers/277/88 "2018-07-04T21:00:01Z")

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Split this topic on July 4, 2018, 9:00pm UTC

2 posts were split to a new topic: [Einstein’s 103 year old Theory of Relativity proven](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/einstein-s-103-year-old-theory-of-relativity-proven/5267)

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**Author:** ![DevilinPixy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/devilinpixy/32/74073_2.png) [@DevilinPixy](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/DevilinPixy)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/echo-64-numbers/277/89 "2018-07-04T21:04:55Z")

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@Projection_Leonhart: I turned your reply into a new topic.  
Your reply was created in an archived topic, which means it is not meant for continued discussion. Your reply was off-topic as well and had nothing to do with the subject discussed.

Please refrain from posting in archived topics and try to find a matching current topic that fits. If not available, create a new topic instead.

Thank you. Should be all sorted now, don’t worry about it.  
You can find your reply as a new topic below:

> [@Einstein’s 103 year old Theory of Relativity proven](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/einstein-s-103-year-old-theory-of-relativity-proven/5267/):
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> As of June 21, 2018 a scientific endeavor pointed the Hubble telescope at a galaxy 500 million light years away and finally proved Albert Einstein’s 103 year old Theory of Relativity. I saved the picture that proved it as my phones background . [hubble-einstein-ring] [“It works!” Relativity article on the 06/21/2018 proof.](http://www.space.com/40958-einstein-general-relativity-test-distant-galaxy.html)

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