# Critique of the Relics Update from an "Armchair" Paleontologist **URL:** \ **Category:** NMS Voyagers\ **Created:** [November 19, 2025, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952 "2025-11-19T00:46:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![toddumptious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/toddumptious/32/58816_2.png) [@toddumptious](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/toddumptious)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/21 "2025-11-20T10:29:14Z")
> [@toddumptious](#): > > There’s also a few bone variants that are listed, but afaik still completely unattainable or it’s so rare that after digging up 1000 bones I still haven’t found them > **[Reddit - The heart of the internet](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/1k8gh29/these_are_the_six_missing_fossils_that_cant/)** ![17636345728528980938897570302202](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/7/0/70e1dc7d48e3a743443f6ad2b573fd4dc54633b4.jpeg) ![1763634599566506912043282658714](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/b/f/bf1e232c14eb4c143c49f5fca93b00f7254a47d6.jpeg) These are the missing ones. I have seen the feathered tail show up on the exhibit in the fossil collectors shop MANY times. They must be hoarding them 😉 Also realising the OP included one that is available, the doe head. The other five are completely absent from the loot table. It’s been a bit, seems like a good time to maybe submit to zen desk. There’s a chance nobody did back then, or not enough people did and it’s buried by more pressing tickets. Or they spent too long biding their time/building the next thing to amaze us with, they completely forgot about em. Oh and before I forget… Patrick **is** cool ---
**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/22 "2025-11-20T13:15:47Z")
So you have not found feather tails anywhere? I really want those ---
**Author:** ![Licoricemint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Licoricemint](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Licoricemint)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/23 "2025-11-20T17:07:54Z")
Reply to toddumptious: I love Moebius. He has written and illustrated many sci-fi and fantasy stories and graphic novels, unfortunately he is more know well-known in Europe. He did the concept art for the movie The Fifth Element. ![moebius1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/d/7/d75ec87e231ca32568cf1529df408cd44cf60326.jpeg) ![moebius2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/0/3/03aff2674080abde82418bdd854484555b6d68a1.jpeg) ![moebius3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/a/d/ad9233b377704a2da192955050aec51c202207ec.jpeg) ![moebius4](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/7/0/70e29144e177742b2ef9b734d245f04443b02f73.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Clemm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/clemm/32/3339_2.png) [@Clemm](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Clemm)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/24 "2025-11-21T00:15:49Z")
> [@Polyphemus](#): > > Why would we expect Earth’s evolutionary patterns to be exactly reflected on planets that are decidedly _not_ Earth? My feeling as well. While it’s “cute” to have earth-like skulls and other skeleton parts, I agree with @sheralmyst that the parts should allow us to build a skeleton of existing critters that have skeletons in No Man’s Sky’s fictional universe. OTOH it would be kinda neato keen (heh, heh) to be able to find bones that let us assemble a creature that is part of the NMS past but not present. Along with that, my preference would be for us to be able to ID and assemble bones that “go to” a specific creature vs. “here’s a slew of bones – go nuts being creative.” In a similar vein I’m one of those who do not avidly seek “earthlike” planets. I want to feel the weirdness of the fictional universe, not minim real life. ---
**Author:** ![Timsup2nothin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/timsup2nothin/32/39579_2.png) [@Timsup2nothin](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Timsup2nothin)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/25 "2025-11-21T01:11:57Z")
> [@Clemm](#): > > In a similar vein I’m one of those who do not avidly seek “earthlike” planets. I want to feel the weirdness of the fictional universe, not minim real life. I like exploring strange planets, but my main base is on the most comfortable planet I have ever found…which is admittedly earthlike only better. I don’t want to wander around my treasuries having to recharge environmental protection, peer through dust storms, or deal with predators. ---
**Author:** ![jedidia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/jedidia/32/1237_2.png) [@jedidia](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/jedidia)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/26 "2025-11-21T07:08:47Z")
> [@Timsup2nothin](#): > > Based on a sample of one this is a very sweeping conclusion. It is a pretty safe bet.. Under the condition that the biochemistry life on that planet is based on can be broken down into energy by that same chemistry. I’m not good enough at chemistry to determine how safe _that_ bet is… ---
**Author:** ![Polyphemus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/polyphemus/32/1884_2.png) [@Polyphemus](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Polyphemus)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/27 "2025-11-21T08:10:56Z")
Here on Earth, carbon dioxide is generally a gas. If you compress it and freeze it, it turns into a solid. For us, it doesn’t have a liquid phase. However, if you compress carbon dioxide and heat it, it turns into a very strange substance indeed - it becomes a supercritical fluid - neither a liquid nor a gas, but having some of the characteristics of both. The chemicals industry uses supercritical carbon dioxide as a solvent - it’s cheap, clean, and leaves no residue. Supercritical fluids are just one example. You don’t have to change temperature and pressure much, before very peculiar things start happening to your physics and chemistry. > **[Supercritical fluid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercritical_fluid)** > > A supercritical fluid (SCF) is a substance at a temperature and pressure above its critical point, where distinct liquid and gas phases do not exist, but below the pressure required to compress it into a solid. It can effuse through porous solids like a gas, overcoming the mass transfer limitations that slow liquid transport through such materials. SCFs are superior to gases in their ability to dissolve materials like liquids or solids. Near the critical point, small changes in pressure or tem Su... ---
**Author:** ![Licoricemint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Licoricemint](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Licoricemint)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/28 "2025-11-27T12:07:09Z")
I just watched a “Captain Steve” video and he’s saying some of the bone pieces were actually tied to the very first “Relics” expedition. In other words, if you didn’t find these pieces during the Relics expedition, you would never be able to find them on your main save. I’m not certain if this is true but I can kind of see it possibly being the case. The Relics expedition is being rerun from December 3 to December 16. So I intend to do the expedition and see if the pieces I don’t have will pop up. ---
**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/29 "2025-11-27T12:10:15Z")
Good idea. I may jump in and join the search. ---
**Author:** ![toddumptious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/toddumptious/32/58816_2.png) [@toddumptious](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/toddumptious)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/30 "2025-11-27T12:20:23Z")
I dunno I think maybe captain Steve is telling porkies or perpetuating a “nude Lara” rumor; from what I gathered from Datamining discussions from the time, it’s just not in the loot table for these interactions. But it’s possible a separate pool table was executed server side for the expedition that isn’t accessible to dataminers. Hello Games tend to point to the exclusive things an expedition houses and they didn’t make a point of there being unique bones to dig up during the expedition. It sure seems like something they’d want to point out this time around if that’s the case, to pull in big numbers again that will make the year look good on a spreadsheet to investors etc. If that does happen then there are two possibilities. They were in the original expedition, and they’ve returned for the redux, or, they were held off and saved for the expedition. The third possibility is I have no idea what I’m talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Clemm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/clemm/32/3339_2.png) [@Clemm](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Clemm)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/31 "2025-11-27T16:32:53Z")
> [@toddumptious](#): > > But it’s possible a separate pool table was executed server side for the expedition that isn’t accessible to dataminers. Thank you soooo much for that. I have a bad habit of swipe-typing on a phone and not proofing before I send. I’m not a data miner forty-niner but I’d love to know more about that pool table. Rack them up! 😈 ---
**Author:** ![toddumptious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/toddumptious/32/58816_2.png) [@toddumptious](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/toddumptious)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/32 "2025-11-27T17:49:35Z")
![17642657603203015885516331732408](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/etarc/original/3X/2/9/29a2ec5931bb1ccecd325aad6cdcba7fe29cd656.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Timsup2nothin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/timsup2nothin/32/39579_2.png) [@Timsup2nothin](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Timsup2nothin)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/33 "2025-11-27T18:58:49Z")
Wandering off topic, but that is an excellent pool design. The center part would be self skimming so no leaves or floating bugs to contend with and when it is skimmed constantly very little sinks to the bottom and has to be cleaned out. The channels around the rim are perfect for establishing a ‘filtration current’ to move everything into the pump suctions. Absolute minimum maintenance. ---
**Author:** ![sheralmyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/sheralmyst/32/55317_2.png) [@sheralmyst](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/sheralmyst)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2025, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/34 "2025-11-27T22:49:10Z")
Jacuzzi party in the corner pocket ---
**Author:** ![Licoricemint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Licoricemint](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Licoricemint)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2025, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/35 "2025-12-01T12:22:54Z")
Captain Steve has made a new video with regards to the upcoming Relics Redux expedition. The expedition begins on December 3. He clarified how he thinks we can acquire these infamous 5 missing bone pieces. The expedition has 5 rendezvous points and they are all paleontological digsites. You can attain each of the 5 pieces at the rendezvous points, either from the bone vendor or it might be buried at the rendezvous point, in which case, you just dig it up. I really want the “stubtail” piece for some of my quadrupeds and hominids. When I do the expedition, I will verify if this is indeed the case and report my findings here. Or anyone can verify and report here if they feel inclined to do so. I won’t be able to start the expedition until I get home from school. ---
**Author:** ![toddumptious](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/toddumptious/32/58816_2.png) [@toddumptious](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/toddumptious)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/36 "2025-12-01T15:19:27Z")
Unless they’re citing stuff turned up in Datamining I’m not inclined to follow their assumptions. I hope to be proven wrong very soon but this feels more like gaming the algorithm with hearsay or maybe I just don’t trust youtubers enough 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![DevilinPixy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/devilinpixy/32/74073_2.png) [@DevilinPixy](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/DevilinPixy)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/37 "2025-12-02T18:14:25Z")
So far the 5 missing fossils have not been available in-game at all, not in the drop tables, not in the previous run of Relics. Unless this has been fixed in a very recent update, or specifically altered with the coming rerun of Relics, there is no way of getting them other than mods/tools. ---
**Author:** ![Licoricemint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Licoricemint](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Licoricemint)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2025, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/38 "2025-12-03T00:12:43Z")
Expedition starts tomorrow. We’ll find out soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![Licoricemint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Licoricemint](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Licoricemint)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/39 "2025-12-03T19:58:22Z")
Captain Steve just released a new video. He was NOT able to get any of the infamous missing bone pieces. I apologize if I got anyone’s hopes up. ---
**Author:** ![Timsup2nothin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.atlas-65.com/timsup2nothin/32/39579_2.png) [@Timsup2nothin](https://forums.atlas-65.com/u/Timsup2nothin)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/critique-of-the-relics-update-from-an-armchair-paleontologist/8952/40 "2025-12-03T20:03:53Z")
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